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Re: Apple Special Event October 2013 Live Stream

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Post by nathas »

sgentle wrote: post #36

Hands down there is nothing more exciting about this OS X update than being able to use multiple monitors again. They can keep their fancy power management and their new apps, because nothing will compare to that feeling when I boot into my shiny new surf-speckled desktop, fullscreen a video on my second monitor, and my main screen isn't covered in useless grey cloth. For the first time in I don't know how many years…

...Pardon my ignorance, I've never owned an Apple product, but you can't use multiple monitors effectively on OS X? You're kidding right?

Re: Apple Special Event October 2013 Live Stream

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Post by depr »

nathas wrote: post #41
sgentle wrote: post #36

Hands down there is nothing more exciting about this OS X update than being able to use multiple monitors again. They can keep their fancy power management and their new apps, because nothing will compare to that feeling when I boot into my shiny new surf-speckled desktop, fullscreen a video on my second monitor, and my main screen isn't covered in useless grey cloth. For the first time in I don't know how many years…

...Pardon my ignorance, I've never owned an Apple product, but you can't use multiple monitors effectively on OS X? You're kidding right?

Only fullscreen applications.

Re: Apple Special Event October 2013 Live Stream

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Post by llimllib »

radicalbyte wrote: post #40
etimesg wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

15:00 São Paulo (Summer Time). Here's an updated TZ list http://everytimezone.com/#2013-10-22,300,6bj

Today is the first time in months that I've searched for an international timetracker. Was really impressed with this: http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/est-to-cet-converter Finally, a website with a very clear visualization of various timezones. Then you post evertimezone.com, which does a very similar thing, but with battery-friendly css :)

I'm a big fan of http://time.is. You can go to http://time.is/compare to generate a similar comparison, or just add the times you want to know to the front page.

Re: Apple Special Event October 2013 Live Stream

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Post by achompas »

nathas wrote: post #41
sgentle wrote: post #36

Hands down there is nothing more exciting about this OS X update than being able to use multiple monitors again. They can keep their fancy power management and their new apps, because nothing will compare to that feeling when I boot into my shiny new surf-speckled desktop, fullscreen a video on my second monitor, and my main screen isn't covered in useless grey cloth. For the first time in I don't know how many years…

...Pardon my ignorance, I've never owned an Apple product, but you can't use multiple monitors effectively on OS X? You're kidding right?

The specific problem arises when you full-screen an app in 10.7 and 10.8. Your second monitor won't provide useable space--it'll just have the stupid dark linen texture.

Re: Apple Special Event October 2013 Live Stream

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Post by sverrejoh »

nathas wrote: post #41
sgentle wrote: post #36

Hands down there is nothing more exciting about this OS X update than being able to use multiple monitors again. They can keep their fancy power management and their new apps, because nothing will compare to that feeling when I boot into my shiny new surf-speckled desktop, fullscreen a video on my second monitor, and my main screen isn't covered in useless grey cloth. For the first time in I don't know how many years…

...Pardon my ignorance, I've never owned an Apple product, but you can't use multiple monitors effectively on OS X? You're kidding right?

OS X Mavericks will have a feature I always wanted in Linux: Independent spaces for each monitor!

In Gnome (at least when I left it, but I don't think it has changed) and previously in OS X, switching to a new virtual space will update both monitors. With this update you choose virtual space independently for each monitor, and let one stay at — say — the logs window, while you change the space on the other monitor.

Re: Apple Special Event October 2013 Live Stream

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Post by jakobe »

nathas wrote: post #41
sgentle wrote: post #36

Hands down there is nothing more exciting about this OS X update than being able to use multiple monitors again. They can keep their fancy power management and their new apps, because nothing will compare to that feeling when I boot into my shiny new surf-speckled desktop, fullscreen a video on my second monitor, and my main screen isn't covered in useless grey cloth. For the first time in I don't know how many years…

...Pardon my ignorance, I've never owned an Apple product, but you can't use multiple monitors effectively on OS X? You're kidding right?

Short explanation: You can use multiple monitors just fine in extended Desktop mode.

However, there are two issues that drive people crazy:

1) When you go enable full screen mode for an app, the app fills one display and all other displays are blanked with a gray linnen texture. That's may be useful if you are watching a movie and don't want other displays to annoy you, but it's really annoying if you just want eg. Mail full screen on a secondary monitor.

2) Mac OS Lion also added a feature named "Spaces" (I think this is called virtual desktops or so on other platforms). The problem is that when you switch between spaces, both screens switch simultaneously. Now let's assume you use your secondary monitor to show an IM client, or to show some live error log, or similar, it's really annoying if that disappears when you switch between spaces on your main display.

So OS X 10.9 finally makes two features introduced in 10.7 (Full screen mode, spaces) usable for people with multiple monitors.

Re: Apple Special Event October 2013 Live Stream

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Post by arrrg »

nathas wrote: post #41
sgentle wrote: post #36

Hands down there is nothing more exciting about this OS X update than being able to use multiple monitors again. They can keep their fancy power management and their new apps, because nothing will compare to that feeling when I boot into my shiny new surf-speckled desktop, fullscreen a video on my second monitor, and my main screen isn't covered in useless grey cloth. For the first time in I don't know how many years…

...Pardon my ignorance, I've never owned an Apple product, but you can't use multiple monitors effectively on OS X? You're kidding right?

This argument is a bit of a red herring. Ever since the dawn of OS X Apple changed nothing at all about how multiple monitors work with the OS. If you don’t use (the much later added) fullscreen function in some apps or (the much later added) Spaces there is no problem at all. That’s why all the arguments about multiple monitors being unusable are honestly a bit ridiculous and over the top.

The problem was always how those two features interact with multiple monitors, nothing more. And, honestly, I think the fullscreen functionality was never intended to be used on larger screens. That’s for the MacBook Air, not anything larger.

But, yeah, Apple changes how the fullscreen functionality and Spaces interact with multiple monitors. (And personally I cannot understand why anyone would use apps in fullscreen mode at all. It just such a waste of space.)

Re: Apple Special Event October 2013 Live Stream

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Post by Achshar »

nathas wrote: post #39
tgkokk wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the page: > Live Streaming video requires Safari 4 or later on OS X v10.6 or later; Safari on iOS 4.2 or later. Streaming via Apple TV requires second- or third-generation Apple TV with software 5.0.2 or later. So, no, unless someone posts a link to a live stream you can watch with VLC, this won't work on any non-Apple device (even with QuickTime).

Just a heads up, they modified it to include "or QuickTime 7 on Windows"

Where? I don't see it.

edit: nevermind, figured it out.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6592283

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