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Re: PhpStorm 7.0 final release is here

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Post by donalmacc » Tue, Oct 22, 2013, 3:29 PM UTC

V-2 wrote: post #29

wnevets wrote: post #25

Every time I try a full fledged IDE I always fall back to a text editor like sublime-text. Some habits are hard to break.

I can refactor a chunk of messy script into a separate method with PHPStorm, it's just one command. Good luck with Sublime :) IDEs were invented for a reason. To each his own, but I lost count of how many times I fixed bugs (of the sort that I could broadly classify as typos) made by colleagues who choose to code in Sublime, Commodo, Notepad++ and the like. I really like Sublime when I need to search for something in…

Until you try to open a relatively large file in sublime at which point it just craps out. My only gripe with sublime is that.

Re: PhpStorm 7.0 final release is here

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Post by Miyamoto » Tue, Oct 22, 2013, 3:51 PM UTC

wnevets wrote: post #25

Every time I try a full fledged IDE I always fall back to a text editor like sublime-text. Some habits are hard to break.

Can PHPStorm be considered a full fledged IDE?

I kind of think a full fledged IDE should be capable of multiple languages. e.g. Ruby, Python, HTML5, etc. all in one package.

PHPStorm is a specialized IDE.

Re: PhpStorm 7.0 final release is here

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Post by Miyamoto » Tue, Oct 22, 2013, 3:54 PM UTC

ye wrote: post #26

flashmob wrote: post #21

I'm a huge fan of PhpStorm. However, I'm wondering what's the purpose of having vagrant in an IDE? Vagrant is easy to work already, just 'vagrant up' and you're away. What problem does the IDE solve? And looking at the interface, the 'halt' button is too close to the 'destroy' button. Might have an accidental click there... It would be cool if they had an interface such as WAMP Server, where you can select the php ve…

> just 'vagrant up' and you're away No, it's 1) Switch to the console 2) Vagrant up 3) Wait for the results 4) Switch back Instead of one key press and watching it run in the bottom console while you're writing the code.

My only problem with terminal and vagrant built into the IDE, is I have multiple monitors and enjoy separation. I usually fullscreen my IDE/editor in one monitor, maximizing each file's viewport to the best I can, and then have multiple terminals on another monitor.

Can I "pop-out" the terminal/vagrant windows in this IDE and put them on another monitor?

Re: PhpStorm 7.0 final release is here

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Post by jtreminio » Tue, Oct 22, 2013, 3:57 PM UTC

Miyamoto wrote: post #42

wnevets wrote: post #25

Every time I try a full fledged IDE I always fall back to a text editor like sublime-text. Some habits are hard to break.

Can PHPStorm be considered a full fledged IDE? I kind of think a full fledged IDE should be capable of multiple languages. e.g. Ruby, Python, HTML5, etc. all in one package. PHPStorm is a specialized IDE.

PhpStorm ships with support for PHP, Javascript, HTML, CSS.

It has plugins for:

* ASP * Behat * CoffeeScript * Gherkin * HAML * Markdown * LESS * YAML * NodeJS * Dart * AngularJS * C/C++ * Mongo * Apache/Nginx * and a lot more ...

Yeah, I'd say it's full-fledged.

Re: PhpStorm 7.0 final release is here

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Post by alphadevx » Tue, Oct 22, 2013, 4:04 PM UTC

It's lack of support for the Open JDK somewhat kills it for me (I run Linux): https://www.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/webhelp/system-requiremen...

Re: PhpStorm 7.0 final release is here

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Post by pekk » Tue, Oct 22, 2013, 4:05 PM UTC

V-2 wrote: post #29

wnevets wrote: post #25

Every time I try a full fledged IDE I always fall back to a text editor like sublime-text. Some habits are hard to break.

I can refactor a chunk of messy script into a separate method with PHPStorm, it's just one command. Good luck with Sublime :) IDEs were invented for a reason. To each his own, but I lost count of how many times I fixed bugs (of the sort that I could broadly classify as typos) made by colleagues who choose to code in Sublime, Commodo, Notepad++ and the like. I really like Sublime when I need to search for something in…

The idea that you need to click on GUI buttons to get anything done is regressive to the extreme.

Re: PhpStorm 7.0 final release is here

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Post by Aldo_MX » Tue, Oct 22, 2013, 4:06 PM UTC

conradfr wrote: post #24

Just as I was going to install PhpStorm 6 on my new machine at work, cool. Most people in my team are not convinced PhpStorm brings anything valuable compared to NetBeans, Eclipse, Sublime2 or even vim. Maybe I will try once again with version 7 :)

When I was trying to promote PhpStorm to replace NetBeans, after I told about the code formatting options, a colleague told me it was possible with NetBeans...

You had to select Formatting in a dropdown to display those options (yet, they were limited in comparison with PhpStorm)...

After that day I forgot that NetBeans exist, seriously, a dropdown that changes the UI? What did the developers have in their minds?

Re: PhpStorm 7.0 final release is here

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Post by ned_roberts » Tue, Oct 22, 2013, 4:07 PM UTC

pekk wrote: post #46

V-2 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can refactor a chunk of messy script into a separate method with PHPStorm, it's just one command. Good luck with Sublime :) IDEs were invented for a reason. To each his own, but I lost count of how many times I fixed bugs (of the sort that I could broadly classify as typos) made by colleagues who choose to code in Sublime, Commodo, Notepad++ and the like. I really like Sublime when I need to search for something in…

The idea that you need to click on GUI buttons to get anything done is regressive to the extreme.

No need to click on anything. Everything's accessible through the keyboard.

Re: PhpStorm 7.0 final release is here

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Post by gog » Tue, Oct 22, 2013, 4:10 PM UTC

pekk wrote: post #46

V-2 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can refactor a chunk of messy script into a separate method with PHPStorm, it's just one command. Good luck with Sublime :) IDEs were invented for a reason. To each his own, but I lost count of how many times I fixed bugs (of the sort that I could broadly classify as typos) made by colleagues who choose to code in Sublime, Commodo, Notepad++ and the like. I really like Sublime when I need to search for something in…

The idea that you need to click on GUI buttons to get anything done is regressive to the extreme.

That is not the idea.

The idea is to use the shortcuts.

Re: PhpStorm 7.0 final release is here

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Post by gog » Tue, Oct 22, 2013, 4:13 PM UTC

FridayWithJohn wrote: post #34

The best IDE imo. The only extra thing I add is the Symfony2 skin. Here is a link to it: https://github.com/cordoval/Symfony2Colors/blob/master/READM...

Symfony2 plugin is also nice.