It looks great, i wonder what technology it uses(what is it built upon? qt?...)
ok , i found the answer , looks like it is JS/HTML with chrome embedded. I hope it will run fast.
Macaw – Code-savvy web design tool
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Re: Macaw – Code-savvy web design tool
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seems like a pointless definitional quibble. What matters is that when people see "code" used as a verb in this context on this site, they think of programming. Whether that's "what it means" or not doesn't really matter.
Descriptivism is all well and good, but I don't think your definition of the word is well established, even in this context. Did I miss a vote or something? What this whole thing sounds like is, "I unilaterally made up my own definition of a word and I will correct people who don't use it that way and everyone who disagrees with me is just quibbling." And regardless of the relative popularity of that usage, I can't s…
Well, we'd have to poll the HN readership to make sure. However, do you really doubt that such a poll would result in anything better than, say, a 90/10 split in favor of "code means programming"?
I mean, if you do doubt that, that's fair enough. I just thought it was pretty obvious that in this community the word was used in a pretty restrictive way (thus the post complaining about it) and broader meanings were only found elsewhere.
Re: Macaw – Code-savvy web design tool
#43This looks really neat. It also helps me understand why so many websites look bad on non-Mac platforms (aka 90% of desktops): designers who do stuff like "that looks a bit heavy, let's bump down the font weight a bit" without realizing that these settings look unreadable on Windows or Linux.
On Low-Res devices running Linux or Windows, that is.
In other words, you're confirming the 90% figure, right?
Re: Macaw – Code-savvy web design tool
#44I had actually expected something for "real" code. (e.g. Scala, Go, younameit) While CSS3/HTML5 definitely made web design somewhat closer to actual coding (esp. on the CSS end), I still find it difficult to call renderer instructions in a markup language true "code". However, this looks like an interesting tool! Too bad that you only seem to be aiming for OSX. Are ports planned?
According to the story by Pandodaily [1], "It’s a native OSX app, but it was built inside a customized version of Google’s Chrome browser. " I guess that it will be relatively easy to target Windows and Linux if they want.
[1] http://pandodaily.com/2013/10/17/macaw-a-kickstarter-funded-...
Re: Macaw – Code-savvy web design tool
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Descriptivism is all well and good, but I don't think your definition of the word is well established, even in this context. Did I miss a vote or something? What this whole thing sounds like is, "I unilaterally made up my own definition of a word and I will correct people who don't use it that way and everyone who disagrees with me is just quibbling." And regardless of the relative popularity of that usage, I can't s…
Well, we'd have to poll the HN readership to make sure. However, do you really doubt that such a poll would result in anything better than, say, a 90/10 split in favor of "code means programming"? I mean, if you do doubt that, that's fair enough. I just thought it was pretty obvious that in this community the word was used in a pretty restrictive way (thus the post complaining about it) and broader meanings were only…
I do doubt that, especially if it were phrased as "Is CSS code?" or similar. Though now I'm curious...
Re: Macaw – Code-savvy web design tool
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, we'd have to poll the HN readership to make sure. However, do you really doubt that such a poll would result in anything better than, say, a 90/10 split in favor of "code means programming"? I mean, if you do doubt that, that's fair enough. I just thought it was pretty obvious that in this community the word was used in a pretty restrictive way (thus the post complaining about it) and broader meanings were only…
I do doubt that, especially if it were phrased as "Is CSS code?" or similar. Though now I'm curious...
I'd be interested in seeing the results of a poll either way.
In any case, my point is that even if we nail it down, all we're doing is figuring out what people mean by "code", not discovering any fundamental truths about coding or programming or HTML or anything.
Re: Macaw – Code-savvy web design tool
#47Either that app is really good, or the demo video was really good. I normally don't get excited over tools like these, but wow that actually seemed very well done and very impressive. The HTML/CSS code it produced was beautifully clean, so interestingly I'm actually most excited about the possibility of this being used as a training tool: the option to be able to instantaneously see the code in a side window as you'r…
It does look impressive but keep in mind the presentation would likely be tailored to the tool's specific strengths.
Every WYSIWYG editor I've ever used was always only useful up to a point. Maybe this one breaks that mold but there's no way to know until we can take it for a spin.
Re: Macaw – Code-savvy web design tool
#48This looks really neat. It also helps me understand why so many websites look bad on non-Mac platforms (aka 90% of desktops): designers who do stuff like "that looks a bit heavy, let's bump down the font weight a bit" without realizing that these settings look unreadable on Windows or Linux.
I don't think that figure if accurate. I think it's save to assume that a great deal of people looking at Macaw will be on a Mac (considering it is being released on the Mac first).
Re: Macaw – Code-savvy web design tool
#49I had actually expected something for "real" code. (e.g. Scala, Go, younameit) While CSS3/HTML5 definitely made web design somewhat closer to actual coding (esp. on the CSS end), I still find it difficult to call renderer instructions in a markup language true "code". However, this looks like an interesting tool! Too bad that you only seem to be aiming for OSX. Are ports planned?
According to the story by Pandodaily [1], "It’s a native OSX app, but it was built inside a customized version of Google’s Chrome browser. " I guess that it will be relatively easy to target Windows and Linux if they want. [1] http://pandodaily.com/2013/10/17/macaw-a-kickstarter-funded-...
I believe it is using CEF, so porting it to either OS's (including Linux) will be pretty easy.
Re: Macaw – Code-savvy web design tool
#50As a Webflow user, this seems to handle a lot of the things that annoy me about Webflow and gives the author more freedom. All around, it seems like a better product. Super keen on giving this a go when it's ready. Oh and no monthly subscription charge, it would appear. Fantastic.
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