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I think a large factor in the lack of change in payment security (In the US anyway, I can't speak for anywhere else) is the rise of the "protected" card. I have no incentive to protect anything about my Amex. Card got skimmed a few years ago somehow, Amex called, asked if I was in Nicaragua (I wasn't) they apologized, removed the $200 or so in charges and next-day aired me a new card. Almost zero hassle. I'd hate to…
It's much better for the banks to carry the can here, so they implement more secure devices.
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Nobody is using MSR anymore, Chip & PIN + PCI stuff has been the norm for several payment terminal and card generations already. So like 10+ years.
> Nobody is using MSR anymore The entire US still is, and that represents more transactions per day than happen in all of Europe.
There is very little true security in retail establishments. This lady simply swapped bar codes on expensive items for bar codes of inexpensive items. Got away with it for over a year and made as much as $30,000 per month in some months: http://miami.cbslocal.com/latest-videos/?autoStart=true&topV...
I'll admit to doing similar at the self checkouts at my local supermarket. Quite happily put pink lady apples through as cheap ones. I started doing this after I watched a whole tray of pink lady apples go in a skip because they brought new produce out. The same is true of a lt of retail establishments. Old stock is destroyed to keep prices up.
On learning of such a trait in someone I ask 'what if you get caught?', but actually it is not them getting caught that matters. Think of the people that work in that shop and the position they get put in having to deal with petty cheats. Also, would you really want to be banned from the store you get your groceries from? That would be a big inconvenience.
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> Nobody is using MSR anymore The entire US still is, and that represents more transactions per day than happen in all of Europe.
The population of the EU is twice the US.
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I'll admit to doing similar at the self checkouts at my local supermarket. Quite happily put pink lady apples through as cheap ones. I started doing this after I watched a whole tray of pink lady apples go in a skip because they brought new produce out. The same is true of a lt of retail establishments. Old stock is destroyed to keep prices up.
I am amazed at how many people do this (or put fruit through as 'onion' on self checkout). It isn't just completely stupid people that do it either, people with jobs to lose, a criminal record that doesn't need to be added to, posh people with a sense of entitlement - all kinds. On learning of such a trait in someone I ask 'what if you get caught?', but actually it is not them getting caught that matters. Think of th…
When capitalism pushes profit margins, some losses are insignificant not to invest in otherwise they will hurt the margins they are trying to protect.
Also if they gave a shit, they'd have staff on all checkouts and not use self-service checkouts. Staff are more expensive.
They know; they just don't care.
http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/keyboards/pos/8000/
This explains the 'attack vector'. Presumably the scammers have USB dongles too.
Compelling argument to switch to iPad cash registers? har har Btw, if anyone wants to buy one, you can here: http://www.keelog.com/wifi_hardware_keylogger.html
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I'll admit to being amazed that people like you exist. No sense of integrity or honor? Just selfish I guess?
Hardly. Here's my perspective which will hopefully make you understand. I live in a poverty stricken area. The supermarkets shove the following distribution of fruit out (I know this because my wife works in one as well): - 20 bags of 5x apples for £1.89 each. 20% go in the bin. - 100 pink lady apple at £0.75 each. 80% go in the bin. - 20 cheap apples (one tray) at around £0.12 each. 0% go in the bin. Now, why should…
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Hardly. Here's my perspective which will hopefully make you understand. I live in a poverty stricken area. The supermarkets shove the following distribution of fruit out (I know this because my wife works in one as well): - 20 bags of 5x apples for £1.89 each. 20% go in the bin. - 100 pink lady apple at £0.75 each. 80% go in the bin. - 20 cheap apples (one tray) at around £0.12 each. 0% go in the bin. Now, why should…
Stealing is stealing despite your best attempt to rationalize it. If you don't like their offerings, don't shop there. THAT would be integrity.