Interestingly CGI is a Canadian company...
CGI is a Canadian company, but CGI Federal is a wholly-owned U.S. subsidiary.
We paid $634 million for the Obamacare sites and all we got was this lousy 404
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Re: We paid $634 million for the Obamacare sites and all we got was this lousy 404
#42There are a lot of interesting things to say about a $634M website that didn’t work when it should have, but what pops out at me here is the description of “poorly written code.” This article even links directly to some of the code, which A) looks fine? and B) is like “Yeah, the problem wasn’t with procurement regulations or clear requirements or public-private cronyism or managerial competence, it was that damn pers…
Here is my personal experience with some of that "poorly written" code: http://www.postlibertarian.com/2013/10/yes-the-obamacare-web...
> the text on the sign-up page, the front-end javascript validation on the sign-up page, and the text on the help page all have different requirements for valid usernames in the database!
Re: We paid $634 million for the Obamacare sites and all we got was this lousy 404
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
How would you fix it? I could imagine a competitive process, e.g. pay a number of different companies to start producing their solution in parallel. And then at the end of 3 months, pick the one(s) that looks the most promising and pay them to continue with it. It sounds wasteful, but I just don't see a better way, because people seem incapable of judging beforehand which companies are actually capable of providing o…
Generally: get government out of the business of procuring custom software and shift to procuring outcomes. Something like these healthcare exchanges should have been put to the market in a from where the revenue is directly tied to the end goal: The successful purchase of health insurance by customers (or whatever is the case here, I'm not intimately familiar with the mechanics). Have providers bid on the full thing…
Yeah, because you're going to get the highest quality from firms that want to do completely speculative work. That's why 99 designs has the best designs, right? If you know you're the best, you'll compete for free!
Re: We paid $634 million for the Obamacare sites and all we got was this lousy 404
#44has anyone here actually attempted to use the site, or just reading about how it fails? The only commenter I've read was using IE.
I just signed up and had no problems.
Re: We paid $634 million for the Obamacare sites and all we got was this lousy 404
#45Good thing we are giving the federal government control over the healthcare system ( and positioning them to take even more control as we move towards single payer ). I am sure they won't screw it up like they have the the roll out of this small portion of the system. Also I am really looking forwards to the day I can't get my kid seen by a doctor because there was a budget fight and the government shut down.
Please explain to me how an exchange stood up by the government which enables you to find a private insurance company to purchase insurance from is involving the government in your use of the private insurance. The new system acts as a facilitator for people to purchase insurance on an open "exchange" market. The government has as much to do with what happens afterwards as the NYSE has to do with how my 80 shares of…
So the government has a monopoly over dolling out plan s on the exchange. In addition you need to be "cleared" by their system before you can get subsidies. Also there are subsidies, so they are directly paying for parts of healthcare. I mean before this I would call my insurence company and I would work with them for insurence. Now before I get insurence I or they need to interface with 30 government agencies to get information about me so I can be approved for a plan.
Then I can't even choose a plan I want since the goverment mandates levels of coverage.
Please take your blinders off your enabling your party to do horrible things.
Re: We paid $634 million for the Obamacare sites and all we got was this lousy 404
#46I'll never understand how it's possible that government web sites cost so much, yet usually look like shit, work like shit and are easy to hack (at least in my country). I always get the feeling that companies that win the contracts are somehow related to people responsible for the decision, it's like "Hey, it's not our money, so let's milk the budget as much as possible!".
One reason is ridiculous schedules. Last year, I worked on a government contract where a law was signed on September 1st that required a system be in place to make payments on January 1st. So four months for vendor procurement, development, testing, and roll-out. The development time ended up being two weeks. That's not going to be quality software. If it even works, everyone is happy enough.
Re: We paid $634 million for the Obamacare sites and all we got was this lousy 404
#47Imagine what this community could build with more than half a billion dollars!
Take a look at what the GDS is doing here in the UK.
* hire really smart people with up-to-date views on technology [1] * build on, and release new open source [2]
[1] https://www.gov.uk/designprinciples [2] https://github.com/alphagov
Re: We paid $634 million for the Obamacare sites and all we got was this lousy 404
#48So this is what $634mm gets you?
https://www.healthcare.gov/marketplace/global/en_US/registra...
Re: We paid $634 million for the Obamacare sites and all we got was this lousy 404
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please explain to me how an exchange stood up by the government which enables you to find a private insurance company to purchase insurance from is involving the government in your use of the private insurance. The new system acts as a facilitator for people to purchase insurance on an open "exchange" market. The government has as much to do with what happens afterwards as the NYSE has to do with how my 80 shares of…
So the government has a monopoly over dolling out plan s on the exchange. In addition you need to be "cleared" by their system before you can get subsidies. Also there are subsidies, so they are directly paying for parts of healthcare. I mean before this I would call my insurence company and I would work with them for insurence. Now before I get insurence I or they need to interface with 30 government agencies to get…
Dude here in england where the government provides health care , it works out that private care is worse in standard (more fuckups personal experience with private cancer care vs nhs cancer care) and generally the public option runs trouble free , sure there will be teething problems on the first days of it opening but in 10 years time , you'll be wondering what kind of idiotic state ever decided to make it a private only system in the first place and what self depreciating lies you've had to swallow about freedom and open markets to get into this state.
Re: We paid $634 million for the Obamacare sites and all we got was this lousy 404
#50> the factors that play into which companies receive government contracts, a process called “procurement,” are fundamentally broken This.
How would you fix it? I could imagine a competitive process, e.g. pay a number of different companies to start producing their solution in parallel. And then at the end of 3 months, pick the one(s) that looks the most promising and pay them to continue with it. It sounds wasteful, but I just don't see a better way, because people seem incapable of judging beforehand which companies are actually capable of providing o…
That did not work very well with the F-35 joint strike fighter. The requirements where/are unreasonable