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Re: How much can an extra hour's sleep change you?

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Post by larrys » Wed, Oct 09, 2013, 5:47 PM UTC

joonix wrote: post #4

Doesn't matter for me. I hardly get much deep sleep due to anatomical issues essentially blocking my airways. I can't afford the surgery (even though I have insurance) nor will my government contribute to it (even though it would increase my productivity multiple times over, meanwhile they throw trillions at universities offering useless degrees). But yes, we have a culture that doesn't value sleep. I know of people…

Would suggest to anyone concerted with noise (not you I understand you have another issue as well) to get custom fitted ear plugs.

Can be done by an an Audiologist.

Make sure to also use the lubricant as well (helps with comfort and importantly blocks more sound). Price I paid was under $100. Bought a 2nd pair. They are great much better than the temporarily sound plugs (not to mention cheaper in the long run).

Re: How much can an extra hour's sleep change you?

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Post by gte910h » Wed, Oct 09, 2013, 5:47 PM UTC

cliveowen wrote: post #24

I don't believe all of this claims about sleep. I sleep 10 to 12 hours a night and I always feel like shit. Even when I had to go to school, I used to sleep 8 hours a night and I was drowsy for most of the day.

Talk to a sleep specialist.

You may be suffering from any number of medical problems interfering with a good night's sleep.

Things like CPAP machines are transformative for sleep depth

Re: How much can an extra hour's sleep change you?

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Post by Mithaldu » Wed, Oct 09, 2013, 5:55 PM UTC

cliveowen wrote: post #35

Mithaldu wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you talked to a doctor about that? Specifically an expert in respiratory issues might be able to help.

I have no trouble breathing whatsoever.

When i'm awake i don't either. But when asleep it turned out i was sometimes not breathing for up to a whole minute.

Re: How much can an extra hour's sleep change you?

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Post by deltaqueue » Wed, Oct 09, 2013, 5:59 PM UTC

mhurron wrote: post #23

peacemaker wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can really feel the anger in your comment and it resonates with me. I am a light sleeper and constantly amazed at what we as a society deem acceptable when it comes to noise at certain hours. Why does the fire truck needs to blast its horns at 3am on a Tuesday going down a large empty street? There is no need and in some countries that would be against noise pollution laws. Doesn't seem to matter here. Leaf blowe…

> There is no need and in some countries that would be against noise pollution laws. Emergency vehicles are exempt from those laws, as they should be. Safety is more important than your sleep. Trains blow their horns at crossings for the same reason. Also, I have to laugh at your indignation at someone mowing their lawn at 7am because they are awake but you aren't right after complaining about an empty street at 3am…

I have almost hit several emergency vehicles during the day due to my car's sound dampening and my car stereo (which doesn't have to be loud to block out sirens). At night, this has never happened because I have never not seen the seizure-inducing lights. My sample size may be less than a hundred, but you're making an assumption that piercing sirens at night are the most effective way to alert the public of an emergency. And for those blind pedestrians, low-frequency (or even lower decibel) sirens are more than sufficient.

I live on the 9th floor of a condo building that unfortunately has single-pane windows. If I don't have an extremely loud fan blowing, I will be woken up by everything from emergency vehicles to motorcyclists. I realize this comes with the territory of living in a city, but if cosmopolitan cities like Geneva can incorporate effective noise pollution laws* then there's room to improve.

* http://www.cagi.ch/en/logement/bruit-de-voisinage.php

Re: How much can an extra hour's sleep change you?

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Post by lelandbatey » Wed, Oct 09, 2013, 5:59 PM UTC

peacemaker wrote: post #5

joonix wrote: post #4

Doesn't matter for me. I hardly get much deep sleep due to anatomical issues essentially blocking my airways. I can't afford the surgery (even though I have insurance) nor will my government contribute to it (even though it would increase my productivity multiple times over, meanwhile they throw trillions at universities offering useless degrees). But yes, we have a culture that doesn't value sleep. I know of people…

You can really feel the anger in your comment and it resonates with me. I am a light sleeper and constantly amazed at what we as a society deem acceptable when it comes to noise at certain hours. Why does the fire truck needs to blast its horns at 3am on a Tuesday going down a large empty street? There is no need and in some countries that would be against noise pollution laws. Doesn't seem to matter here. Leaf blowe…

Only on reading this thread have I learned that I am a very heavy sleeper. I've always taken for granted that low level noise is easy to sleep through. Now I feel:

1. Bad that I've caused as much noise as I have at some times.

2. Very sorry for those of you that have to deal with easily disturbed sleep.

Re: How much can an extra hour's sleep change you?

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Post by MichaelGG » Wed, Oct 09, 2013, 6:04 PM UTC

cliveowen wrote: post #24

I don't believe all of this claims about sleep. I sleep 10 to 12 hours a night and I always feel like shit. Even when I had to go to school, I used to sleep 8 hours a night and I was drowsy for most of the day.

10 to 12 sounds excessive. Sometimes I sleep 14+ hours a day. It's usually because of another problem, and oversleeping often drives a depressive state. Going a day without sleep, or getting 3 hours, usually makes me very hyper.

You should consider doing some research or consulting with a doctor.

Re: How much can an extra hour's sleep change you?

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Post by landakram » Wed, Oct 09, 2013, 6:07 PM UTC

I know there's a lot of research in the effects of sleep deprivation on health, but the study referenced in the article had only 7 participants, segmented into two groups. Doesn't that seem like a really small sample size?

Re: How much can an extra hour's sleep change you?

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Post by ejk314 » Wed, Oct 09, 2013, 6:11 PM UTC

Mithaldu wrote: post #43

cliveowen wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no trouble breathing whatsoever.

When i'm awake i don't either. But when asleep it turned out i was sometimes not breathing for up to a whole minute.

That's fucking terrifying.

Re: How much can an extra hour's sleep change you?

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Post by stordoff » Wed, Oct 09, 2013, 6:15 PM UTC

cliveowen wrote: post #35

Mithaldu wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you talked to a doctor about that? Specifically an expert in respiratory issues might be able to help.

I have no trouble breathing whatsoever.

You can be completely fine while awake, but still have apnoea while asleep. If you are sleeping that much and not feeling refreshed, it definitely seems like something to get checked.

Re: How much can an extra hour's sleep change you?

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Post by Miyamoto » Wed, Oct 09, 2013, 6:19 PM UTC

statusgraph wrote: post #26

arethuza wrote: post #9

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Oddly, our teenager did the "sleep in" thing for about six months, now he bounces out of bed at 6:45 most mornings and 6:00 when he is going to rugby training!

Probably a pretty girl in his first class :)

My school offered a few tracks. The earliest track had you out of school earlier, but classes started at 7AM. Everyone took that track at my school because people could get out earlier and do things when it's still light outside. I regularly woke up at 5:30AM with no trouble. It's not really uncommon for teenagers to wake up at 6AM. For some weird reason that changes in college, and everyone gets lazy and sleeps in. (despite college usually offering superior choice of schedule)