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'Tor Stinks' presentation – read the full document

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Re: 'Tor Stinks' presentation – read the full document

#41
Some nice recommendations tho for usage.

ORBOT / Tor Router Project / Hide-my-ip-address / Tor Project and the bootable OS Tails.

Some of the more advanced Obfuscation for the tor project

Skype Morph - Hides Tor traffic in Skype packets mmm fun and worth a look

Someone better be working on tor Obfuscation with flash packets, no one is going to block those things.

/tinhat

Re: 'Tor Stinks' presentation – read the full document

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Page 5: "Terrorist with Tor client installed" And its a picture of a guy with a bandit mask and an AK-47. I don't know about you guys, but all my Tor activities are performed in my Halloween costume! I honestly can't believe something this tacky would end up in a presentation. Is this supposed to be propaganda?

I thought it was more of a Zorro mask. It's very suspicious that the entire presentation seems to undermine the supposed severity of the issue with very silly names and pictures...

Tor Stinks, ONIONBREATH, EPICFAIL

Re: 'Tor Stinks' presentation – read the full document

#44
post #4

Page 5: "Terrorist with Tor client installed" And its a picture of a guy with a bandit mask and an AK-47. I don't know about you guys, but all my Tor activities are performed in my Halloween costume! I honestly can't believe something this tacky would end up in a presentation. Is this supposed to be propaganda?

Yeah where is the value for my tax dollars? I want top shelf Powerpoint presentations.

Re: 'Tor Stinks' presentation – read the full document

#45
After reading many of these articles about the NSA I keep wondering if they have an office specifically tasked with thinking up code names for these projects. I personally would find it difficult to keep them all straight—this article, for example, contained a new one to me: ONIONBREATH.

Just an odd image in my mind of a group of top-security clearance, extremely well trained, able-minded people who think up silly code names like these.

Re: 'Tor Stinks' presentation – read the full document

#46
post #4

Page 5: "Terrorist with Tor client installed" And its a picture of a guy with a bandit mask and an AK-47. I don't know about you guys, but all my Tor activities are performed in my Halloween costume! I honestly can't believe something this tacky would end up in a presentation. Is this supposed to be propaganda?

and a beard... like terrorists can be stereotyped like that. This is more than just propaganda, this is the mentality of the type of people who put these presentations together. That fact that whoever wrote this presentation has profiled people like this. I would wager that 99% of online "terrorists" are sitting around in jeans and t-shirts, on safe soil, have probably never handled a gun, let alone an AK-47 (or whatever that is on his back), probably don't have a beard. The ones financing them probably spend their life wearing a suit and tie and are either driving a top of the line vehicle or are driven everywhere in a top of the line vehicle.

If you look at the world around us and review the history of terrorism, most of it's been funded behind the scenes by one of the major superpowers, and you can't overlook the fact that a large portion of this has been by backed by the US. It's funny how when the US wants a government toppled, the terrorists are "friendly" and funded and armed by the US government, but when they're counter to US interests, they're suddenly part of the axis of evil and must be destroyed...

Perhaps if they stopped funding this ignorant behaviour and stopped supplying munitions to these terrorist interests, the problem would eventually go away... spend more on education and tolerance towards all points of view, enlightenment, the world would become a more peaceful place.

When will "democratic" governments eventually realize that money and greed is not the best approach to the furthering the human experience on this planet.

Sorry, didn't mean to get off on a rant there, but that one picture triggered a bit of annoyance.

Re: 'Tor Stinks' presentation – read the full document

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post #4

Page 5: "Terrorist with Tor client installed" And its a picture of a guy with a bandit mask and an AK-47. I don't know about you guys, but all my Tor activities are performed in my Halloween costume! I honestly can't believe something this tacky would end up in a presentation. Is this supposed to be propaganda?

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Re: 'Tor Stinks' presentation – read the full document

#48

How do we know this wasn't just a trick to make people think tor is safe and keep using it?

Pretty sure it is. If you need serious anonymity, like if your life depends on it, get a botnet and use the trojaned PCs as proxies. Use public WiFi, and use cheap laptops that you replace regularly and/or VMs, and don't forget to fake your MAC address. Create multiple fake personas to confuse attackers. Have stuff you write rephrased by someone else, so they can't do a corpus analysis on your writings. Do as much offline as possible. If you have to transfer information, avoid the internet. Use dedicated lines, dialup, dead drops, etc. etc.

I'm so glad I have nothing to hide.

Re: 'Tor Stinks' presentation – read the full document

#49
The slides were from over a year ago, I'm sure a lot has changed since then. Also the timing of this is very suspect, obviously it's been in the news and the Guardian either want to run with this new line brought on by the Silk Road "bust", or they just want to "soothe" (take as you will) our worries with the network.

Would also love to know more about NEWTONS CRADLE, anyone heard of anything more specific?

Re: 'Tor Stinks' presentation – read the full document

#50
post #42

Why are these latest NSA stories getting flagged so much? I don't like that PG has relaxed the flagging so much. You can probably flag even tens of stories a day now without having your flagging removed.

I wonder, if you flag too much, do you get a 'querulant' flag yourself that makes the site ignore your flags? :-D

I would totaly implement something like that if I were PG. Seems to fit the mindset of HN, as it also uses hellbans.

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