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Re: SQRL - Replacement for usernames and passwords

#41
post #5

How is this better than any other phone-based 2-factor auth scheme?

It's 1 step. Just scan a code. Con: requires internet connectivity, unlike some 2-factor implementations

Well, theoretically you could make an implementation which reads the QR code then displays what would have been posted to the server. Via a web-browser extension, you could then type this into a form field and have that log you in. You could base encode it to make it a little easier.

So, it seems feasible offline with online required only for convenience.

Re: SQRL - Replacement for usernames and passwords

#42
post #18

http://attrition.org/errata/charlatan/steve_gibson/ > Steve Gibson is somewhat of a "fringe" charlatan. In some professional security circles, he is not considered a reputable security professional, rather more of a snake oil salesman peddling third-rate software with bold claims. While many of his claims are a bit outlandish or bold, few, if any, are demonstrably false. However, when asked to speak on security topic…

Not to use a debate cliché, but isn't this a ridiculously shameless ad hominem? He's published the protocol and disavowed any intellectual property claim to it. Let's focus on critiquing the protocol.

Personally, even if the design is ok, I don't care to give this chucklehead any publicity. Maybe the blind squirrel found a nut (see what I did there? SQRL?) by getting a design right. Doesn't mean it's anything particularly clever, or that we should use it and give him something to base his incessant self-promotion on for the next 20 years.

Re: SQRL - Replacement for usernames and passwords

#44
post #32

The thing this is most similar to is Twitter's recent 2FA implementation. Except, instead of the site automatically pinging the app to open on your phone (and then you ACKing or NAKing the ping), it requires you to open it yourself and scan a code on the screen (thus implicitly ACKing it.) Everything else happens the same.

It seems like the basic idea isn't unique. I was thinking of something similar a while back and found https://tiqr.org while looking for similar ideas.

Re: SQRL - Replacement for usernames and passwords

#45
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, it's not really 2-factor is it? It's just the phone part of a 2-factor login and no web form part. Presumably the screen shot that showed a login form was for people without the phone app.

> "Well, it's not really 2-factor is it?" Whatever you use to unlock/authenticate to the device would be the other factor.

What? So then when I log in to my bank it's really 3-factor?

Re: SQRL - Replacement for usernames and passwords

#47
post #43

How do you log in to a mobile site if you have to use your phone to scan the code?

I assume that in addition to the QR code there would be a link that would trigger an intent to open the authentication app with the necessary data. At least on Android that's how it could work.

Re: SQRL - Replacement for usernames and passwords

#48
post #18

http://attrition.org/errata/charlatan/steve_gibson/ > Steve Gibson is somewhat of a "fringe" charlatan. In some professional security circles, he is not considered a reputable security professional, rather more of a snake oil salesman peddling third-rate software with bold claims. While many of his claims are a bit outlandish or bold, few, if any, are demonstrably false. However, when asked to speak on security topic…

His idea as it is now is new (at least to me) and practical. Most people don't have the time to care what he said or did before.
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