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A case for something, anything more simple than WordPress
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Re: A case for something, anything more simple than WordPress
#42Consider Perch.
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#43I'm using Wordpress for a project because of the wealth of existing templates and plugins. Without these Wordpress is not terribly interesting; it's not Wordpress. Once you drop the ecosystem there are plenty of alternative to creating static or near-static sites. edit: I should point out that more alternatives for creating Web content is, on average, a Good Thing. Presenting a tool, however good, as an alternative t…
To help people evaluate alternatives for creating static sites, I built this live dashboard comparing the Github activity of the leading static site generators.
Re: A case for something, anything more simple than WordPress
#44I used WordPress for a while, but switched to a host of static site generators about two years ago. One of the big reasons I switched was because WordPress was so huge, and unnecessarily so. Their big overhaul of the wp-admin section, in 2.5 I think, de-emphasized the post writing page (something which was previously instantly accessible). That's what started pushing me away from WordPress. Recently I've started look…
These days there's a "+ New" button at the top of every single page of a Wordpress site - both the admin section, and the public section if you're logged in - that lets you add a new post, piece of media, page, or user. Or more; I use the Comic Easel plugin to manage my webcomic, and it lets me add a new page that way. That said if you want a CMS that only does the five things you need, you don't want WP.
That's exactly the conclusion I came to. Which is a shame, because there was a point where WordPress basically did just what I wanted to, and put the emphasis on those things. Now it's a full blown CMS, which I don't want or need.
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#45Perl/CGI is pretty simple..
Well that brings back memories!
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#46I'm so weary of people pitching the solution to WordPress and then tossing a proprietary cloud hosted thing at me. That's a complete non-starter. All the time I hear from fellow devs "oh don't advertise you use WordPress, it's irrelevant to clients." Tell that to my bank account and all the jobs I've stolen from agencies who wanted to use their BS proprietary CMS. I sell WordPress like this: when you want a rebuild i…
This is so true. Open source and hosted commercial products fill totally different niches. Sure, there are some projects where either one would suffice, but many where that's not true. I'm working on an open-source Wordpress replacement right now. (No link yet. I want to get a little farther before I put it out there.) The basic concept is: 1) Use Rails, to ease development of plugins and per-site functionality. 2) D…
1) Use Rails
Wordpress works on all manners of shared and dedicated web hosting because they all (or at least the majority) support PHP
Re: A case for something, anything more simple than WordPress
#47I'm so weary of people pitching the solution to WordPress and then tossing a proprietary cloud hosted thing at me. That's a complete non-starter. All the time I hear from fellow devs "oh don't advertise you use WordPress, it's irrelevant to clients." Tell that to my bank account and all the jobs I've stolen from agencies who wanted to use their BS proprietary CMS. I sell WordPress like this: when you want a rebuild i…
So the advantage of Wordpress isn't anything you could find by looking at Wordpress itself... it's the popularity and huge amount of support that brings? Makes sense. So the "next Wordpress" won't be able to be the next Wordpress until it's popular. It'll have to be good for other reasons until then.
Well it'll definitely have to be self-hosted and open source. It's a nonstarter to have to work in a particular ecosystem off the bat for me. I don't know what setup I'll want to be running in 10 years.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is so true. Open source and hosted commercial products fill totally different niches. Sure, there are some projects where either one would suffice, but many where that's not true. I'm working on an open-source Wordpress replacement right now. (No link yet. I want to get a little farther before I put it out there.) The basic concept is: 1) Use Rails, to ease development of plugins and per-site functionality. 2) D…
1) Use Rails Wordpress works on all manners of shared and dedicated web hosting because they all (or at least the majority) support PHP
There's no doubt whatsoever in my mind that WP's popularity is joined at the hip with the availability of cheapo LAMP hosting.
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#49I'm so weary of people pitching the solution to WordPress and then tossing a proprietary cloud hosted thing at me. That's a complete non-starter. All the time I hear from fellow devs "oh don't advertise you use WordPress, it's irrelevant to clients." Tell that to my bank account and all the jobs I've stolen from agencies who wanted to use their BS proprietary CMS. I sell WordPress like this: when you want a rebuild i…
This is so true. Open source and hosted commercial products fill totally different niches. Sure, there are some projects where either one would suffice, but many where that's not true. I'm working on an open-source Wordpress replacement right now. (No link yet. I want to get a little farther before I put it out there.) The basic concept is: 1) Use Rails, to ease development of plugins and per-site functionality. 2) D…
I'd actually rather see a hardcore nice CMS in something like Laravel, which is fairly similar to Rails. I don't think Rails is a non-starter but I'd like to see something that's LAMP friendly due to the ease and availability to beginners, students, and the generally broke.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is so true. Open source and hosted commercial products fill totally different niches. Sure, there are some projects where either one would suffice, but many where that's not true. I'm working on an open-source Wordpress replacement right now. (No link yet. I want to get a little farther before I put it out there.) The basic concept is: 1) Use Rails, to ease development of plugins and per-site functionality. 2) D…
1) Use Rails Wordpress works on all manners of shared and dedicated web hosting because they all (or at least the majority) support PHP
Indeed. This is something I considered. But Rails support is growing more ubiquitous, particularly with the rise of VPSs. And even if a hosting provider doesn't explicitly support Rails, it's often possible to install Rails nonetheless.
The biggest missing ingredient is a one-liner installer for all the dependencies. Installing Rails, the MySQL gem, and Passenger on a fresh server is not terribly hard for an experienced Unix user, but it is quite intimidating for casual users. So one of my goals for the project is to create a "worse is better" Rails installer. I.e. a really quick-and-dirty script, bundled with the CMS, which gives you a minimal Rails/Passenger/MySQL environment. It would be optimized for issue-free installation on a variety of hosts, rather than for bleeding edge features or maximum performance.