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Why I Moved My Startup to Oakland

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Re: Why I Moved My Startup to Oakland

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Did you factor in the risk of dying when you made this decision? This kid is naive.

You're getting downvotes because of how you phrased your comment - but the base point is still there.

I've driven to Oakland once, and it was to pick up a friend after he missed a connection on BART - Within that 30 minute window of me driving to pick him up he was nearly mugged by a group of 3, jumped in a black windowless van as an escape route - and somehow managed to have that driver be an ex-taxi driver who noticed he was in trouble.

There's obviously some more dangerous, and some safer areas of the city - but it's still known as having an extremely high crime rate.

Re: Why I Moved My Startup to Oakland

#43
Yea, the gentrification is spilling over from SF to the east bay. Long time residents are being pushed out while "beer gardens" and other businesses that cater to 20-something yuppies are popping up all over.

Re: Why I Moved My Startup to Oakland

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

< 15 minutes to downtown SF on BART, nearly the same drive if you're going off-peak.

It is actually faster to get to downtown SF from downtown OAK on BART than it is to get to downtown SF from the Sunset, Richmond, or even lower Haight on Muni.

This is very true. I live in inland east bay (Walnut Creek) and my BART commute is still a few minutes shorter than my MUNI commute from when I was living in the Outer Richmond district.

Re: Why I Moved My Startup to Oakland

#45
Let me start by saying I like the sentiment here. The hardest thing about living in NYC is knowing too many people. They distract you and give a false sense of comfort towards your situation. I get that.

But, I have a problem with this, is moving an hour outside of a city really relocating? I'd argue if you don't want to be comfortable move to a city where you have no connections. Focus on somewhere not particularly welcoming to tech entrepreneurs and really get out of the comfort zone. Otherwise, I don't think you really moved your startup anywhere.

Re: Why I Moved My Startup to Oakland

#46

Welcome! Breezy's been based in Oakland since starting in 2009 (or 2011 if you prefer to count from initial funding), and it's great. There are more people than you might think who are happy to live and work here here, and you just can't beat the rent or the weather. Feel free to swing by sometime and say hello - we're always happy to meet others in the small club that is the Oakland startup world.

Another fellow Oaklander checking in here (working in Mountain View though). You, myself, and Jared should all get a beer sometime (and whoever else).

Re: Why I Moved My Startup to Oakland

#47

Why not just not partake in all of these startup events and meetings instead of moving? I have the same opinions as the author about all the startup noise and groupies here in KC. Which is why I avoid most of them.

This is a good question, and I have two answers. 1) You are paying a high premium in San Francisco for the privilege of that stuff and it's simply not worth it. 2) The culture is pretty affected by the echoing and it gets kind of hard to escape. For example, going out to bars people frequently start conversations with things like "what startup do you work for"

The fun will really begin when the question becomes "What startup did you work for?" Those conversations are a lot more interesting.

Re: Why I Moved My Startup to Oakland

#49
As a long time resident of Oakland, I'd like to relate some awesome things about Oakland, none of which the author touched on. Well, I guess the diversity and "Real-ness" count.

Oakland is a hell of a lot cheaper to live in. Groceries, restaurants, rent, drinks, office space, hotel rooms, air fare: everything is cheaper.

In Oakland, we have a burgeoning uptown scene, punctuated by the Art Murmur, an event which started in 2005, and has blossomed into a giant street festival that very accurately reflects the diversity of Oakland. It's a First Friday roll call for the city, and the Bay Area.

That "Beer Garden" mentioned elsewhere, was a hipster coffee shop before that, and a cheap cafe before that, all willingly handed with great care from owner to owner. Gentrification has room to spread in Oakland, so while some complain about it, it mostly removes empty lots and vacant windows, not mom and pop businesses.

The Mission, on the other hand, sees gentrification at the cost of existing businesses. And speaking of the Mission, Oakland's Fruitvale district is the cheapest, most active place you can live for under 4 figures, while still being 30 minutes from downtown SF via BART or car. Fruitvale has become quite the destination, for the adventurous.

I could go on: The Chapel of Chimes is a Julia Morgan masterpiece, a labyrinth of death located in the hills. The Rose garden has a resident turkey. There's a couple breweries that host quiet BBQ's, Jack London Square, the various parks in the hills. The Hills.... The Fox and the Paramount. Van Kleefs.

And my own personal favorite: http://www.themade.org

Re: Why I Moved My Startup to Oakland

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please HN'ers, ignore these people. These comments have confirmed a pattern I've been seeing on various websites' comment-section. Any attempts to show Oakland, Africa or African-americans in any kind of positive light or as victims will always, _ALWAYS_ , get troll'ish/meta/hyper-pedantic comments that derail the main topic and/or meaningful discourse of the subject at hand, completely blowing up the comment threads…

This is about Oakland, why bring race into it? If the original poster had moved his startup to Stockton, we would be having the same conversation.

Race is always a factor for anyone who knows anything about the history of Oakland. For example, the Black Panther Party was founded in Oakland. There has been class war and racism at the heart of Oakland for many, many years.

This post is another example of a long history of gentrification, which also has a racial component. Race is absolutely on-topic here.

That doesn't mean I expect said discussion to be productive.

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