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AppEngine's lockin is significantly overstated. AppScale exists and works well.
Do you know of any sites/services that are using AppScale in production and what their volume is? (I googled for "powered by" and found nothing)
I had a cursory glance, and this has nothing to do with Twitter's Bower[1], a package manager for web libraries (hell, even the TLD is the same). Bowery is a misleading name, and it gives the impression they are somehow related. [1] http://bower.io/
Interestingly, 'bowery' is Glaswegian slang for 'come on, then!' or 'bring it!' - indicating aggression [1]. [1] http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bowery
> Our Philosophy: Web development is terrible. Go fuck yourself, Bowery.
It seems like this would yield a really enjoyable workflow. The pricing model ( http://bowery.io/pricing/ ) makes it difficult for me to transfer into an actual monthly price. Seems like that could be remedied with a few scenarios. Also, one of the things I love about heroku is the free starting point. It really lets me play with an idea without committing to hardly anything. Is there a similar free starting place wi…
Hey thanks for checking it out. We're working on a few ways to make the pricing easier to digest. We've been discussing a free starting point, but haven't solidified anything just yet. Right now we're bootstrapped. There's only three of us, so the focus so far has been on getting the product in a useable and workable state.
If you follow the link on the main page to "Learn more about how Bowery works." it first asks you to install npm 1) Is npm something that comes standard with any operating system these days? 2) Why do I have to install something on my system to "learn" how it works? This page should probably be what many comments here are trying to say which is that the site doesn't really say what it is. Something like Google App En…
That said, they really should have more info before dropping you on the install page.
> Our Philosophy: Web development is terrible. Go fuck yourself, Bowery.
Educational systems have evolved a solution for this kind of thing: you isolate newbies from conflict. You essentially lie to them, you simplify the situation, and tell them "do this". They do it, and now they know something. Now they have a bit of skin in the game, they have a data point to participate in future academic conflict.
But with modern web dev, the conflict is up-front-and-center, and newbies are not isolated from it.
Bowery, GAE, and meteor address these issues in a very similar way: they make reasonable up-front decisions about how an app should be structured. You can deviate, but the defaults are not bad.
These decisions are a real pain point for a lot of people, and I think that's what they meant with that statement. I would also add: be careful defending complexity. It is very easy for a professional who's built a career navigating complexity to descry reductions to that complexity, as it will directly affect her ability to make money.
The documentation looks nice, but the pricing page is just confusing (at least for my colleague and me).
that's good feedback. Would a pricing calculator help or is it just that there are too many cost centers?