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Dear USA, my data has left your building

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Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

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post #26

I suspected there was going to be a mass exodus. NSA basically killed cloud-computing. I don't think it will come back soon. And while on the subject, consider selling your Microsoft stock. How many enterprise customers will choose Microsoft products again after 2013?

I'm curious to know why you advocated just selling Microsoft stock when Google and Amazon and IBM also have cloud computing/services businesses. Will they not be affected?

Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

#42
post #25

It's the bottom line that's important. As long as the current surveillance regime is in place, there's nowhere you can be online that isn't watchable by them. The NSA is the largest practitioner and consumer of surveillance among its allies and other targets, and likely drives and influences most surveillance activity among its allies and other targets. The NSA gets its funding from US tax collections, and those taxe…

This is true, but there is also some reason to think that surveillance may be somewhat more difficult if outside the immediate operational reach of the US government. So yes they can listen. But if you make it as hard as you can, you make them spend more effort for less.

If we could make the internet run more secure encryption generally, then the NSA, forced to target specific end-points, would howl in frustration....

Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

#43
post #7

Nitpickers aside (yes, what they had they may still have or at least in digest form) this is a single instance of a tidal wave of people doing this. EU datacenters are doing quite well because of the NSA revelations. The economic impact of this could very well counteract any net plus the US had while they were able to spy at will. Likely it's not going to be the same parties that will end up footing the bill. The pra…

It will however have an economic impact on US, if you do that. Think of it as "voting with your wallet". You're voting with your wallet against US.

It's also a political stand. As a foreigner who can't vote against the current US government, or even as a US citizen, your action can have a political impact.

Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

#44
I recently deleted my Google+ profile. I have to say that Google is among the nice ones out there. They have a no-nonsense process with tools in place to export the data and delete accounts. Facebook/Quora make it really difficult to delete your data.

It's ironic that it's easier to leave the good corporations than the bad ones.

Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

#45
As much as I love Synology NAS, I wouldn't trust it for keeping what's essentially my entire life (email, photos, music, files, everything). The author has a backup system which involves two laptops, a workstation and a separate file drive. However, at the bottom he/she adds "I will probably add an extra external drive to the mix and try to keep that off site." My advice: do it. Now. Murphy's law states that a flood/power surge will hit your house as soon as pull the plug on your external storages.

I don't want the NSA to snoop through my email and family photos, but the fear of data loss easily trumps my fear of not having privacy. To me, that's the tradeoff for using public services like dropbox/Gmail: I get more redundancy at the cost of privacy.

Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

#46
post #5

Over the last month I have cancelled all our servers in US, setting up a new one this morning in Amsterdam One thing I am worried about is potential liability of having someone sueing us under data protection laws here in Ireland, claiming their data was inspected by US and we couldnt protect their privacy Here in Europe we get to have data protection commisioners and strong laws on the subject unlike across the pond…

That's been the case ever since the PATRIOT Act was passed, back in 2001. So you were screwed even before Snowden came along ;)

Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

#47
post #25

It's the bottom line that's important. As long as the current surveillance regime is in place, there's nowhere you can be online that isn't watchable by them. The NSA is the largest practitioner and consumer of surveillance among its allies and other targets, and likely drives and influences most surveillance activity among its allies and other targets. The NSA gets its funding from US tax collections, and those taxe…

In most cases I'll agree with you, money controls the us government. In this case thought, the nsa might have secret knowledge on politicians, it's job might be critical to national security or at least seem so, and I bet there's some support from the military industrial complex.

It would be quite hard for tech companies fight this fight.

Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

#48

As much as I love Synology NAS, I wouldn't trust it for keeping what's essentially my entire life (email, photos, music, files, everything). The author has a backup system which involves two laptops, a workstation and a separate file drive. However, at the bottom he/she adds "I will probably add an extra external drive to the mix and try to keep that off site." My advice: do it. Now. Murphy's law states that a flood/…

free cloud services!=backup

Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

#49
post #29
post #16

It's not clear to me if you dropped your gmail address? Running email outside of gmail is easy enough, but changing email address to another domain is a total pain.

It' odd that perma-address providers like pobox.com aren't more popular.

pobox is US-based.
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