I wonder whether the total numbers are significantly lower on the weekends - i.e. if there's a selection bias going on for people who choose to use the internet.
Older versions of IE show a much stronger dropoff in usage over the weekend
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Re: Older versions of IE show a much stronger dropoff in usage over the weekend
#42Please retitle to "30-40% of IE users use older versions of Internet Explorer by choice." [derp. updated the numbers because I was being stupid, but the point still stands]
Re: Older versions of IE show a much stronger dropoff in usage over the weekend
#43The words "older", "versions" and "of" are superfluous.
Re: Older versions of IE show a much stronger dropoff in usage over the weekend
#44The title needs an asterisk. Because I unfortunately have the privilege of knowing an older gentleman that purposely uses IE6 on Windows XP. He calls the concept of tabs useless rubbish. And I'm not talking a regular consumer, I'm talking someone who develops actual software.
Bollocks. It doesn't need an asterisk. It has a graph that proves your point! The graph doesn't show IE8/9 use going to 0% on the weekends. In fact, it clearly shows about 35% of IE users still cling onto older versions during the weekends.
Re: Older versions of IE show a much stronger dropoff in usage over the weekend
#45And from a startup point of view, legacy IE means Enterprises, Enterprise means big price tags: 1) Because they are Enterprises. 2) Because nobody wants to support those browsers. If you think it's a declining market that'll be dead in 18 months, we have contracts to support IE 6 until 2019, not to mention 7 and 8.
I can't remember how high it was, but let's say it was around 10%. We were told that we had to support all the way down to IE6. To do so, we raised our prices, almost constantly during that project, and they happily paid it. At that level, an agency can change thousands for legacy browser support, and the client will happily pay, because in their mind that 10% will spend far more money than what we can charge.
With that in mind, that's how I view browser specifications today. For clients with an existing website, I check what percentage of their users use legacy browsers, and work out with them whether the cost of supporting these users against the potential benefit. A lot of developers and agencies simply won't do this because they either can't or won't find a solution for legacy browsers.
Re: Older versions of IE show a much stronger dropoff in usage over the weekend
#46Re: Older versions of IE show a much stronger dropoff in usage over the weekend
#47And from a startup point of view, legacy IE means Enterprises, Enterprise means big price tags: 1) Because they are Enterprises. 2) Because nobody wants to support those browsers. If you think it's a declining market that'll be dead in 18 months, we have contracts to support IE 6 until 2019, not to mention 7 and 8.
What business are you in? If you're going to support IE6 until 2019, which probably runs Javascript 200 times slower than IE10, your software is going to be very limited. Once your competitions builds a better mousetrap, sends in their sales team then explains that all your customers need to do is install Chrome, it might get a little ugly.
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#48And from a startup point of view, legacy IE means Enterprises, Enterprise means big price tags: 1) Because they are Enterprises. 2) Because nobody wants to support those browsers. If you think it's a declining market that'll be dead in 18 months, we have contracts to support IE 6 until 2019, not to mention 7 and 8.
Enterprise also means six-month sales cycles, finding salespeople with good Rolodexes, endless awful meetings needed to sync up five different departments, and a diminished ability to turn technical superiority into paying customers. There's a ton of money there, but you need to build the right organization. Some companies will find it easier to sell to smaller businesses.
Re: Older versions of IE show a much stronger dropoff in usage over the weekend
#49I think a lot of people just don't know enough to upgrade their browser - I see people using IE9 at work even though we are allowed to install whatever software we want... IE really needs silent auto-update, and to actually release more often...
If you think this, then you don't understand enterprises. The vast majority of users you will encounter, even in their 60's, are aware, through friends, kids, family, etc that this "Google Chrome thing makes the internet faster". They want it, but your typical large enterprise foces IE down their throats, courtesy of 20+ years of rape by the legions of IT guys who, through the cognitive dissonance inducing Microsoft…
And in a different DoD office a few miles away, IE7. :(
Re: Older versions of IE show a much stronger dropoff in usage over the weekend
#50The words "older", "versions" and "of" are superfluous.
I don't understand when geeks insult other people who like Microsoft Windows or IE. I get it if you don't like the browser, I get it if you HATE the browser, but to actually insult the users of that browser is just ignorant.