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Re: Polyphasic Sleep

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I followed a polyphasic sleep pattern for maybe 2 months, and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

There are the more obvious obstacles: your friends, family, and co-workers don't follow the same schedule. It's lonely for anyone who values social connection. Unless you work on your own, the workplace is a bad environment for sleep.

There are also potential health concerns for certain polyphasic sleep schedules. Most polyphasic sleepers don't sleep a full ~8.5 hours in a day. Your body uses sleep to refresh your body and keep the body (particularly the circulatory system) running strong. On my schedule, I started by sleeping about 5 hours. I was monitoring my blood pressure, and while it remained within a healthy range (I was in my mid twenties) the variance was much greater than it was on 8.5 hours. When I went to sleep late at night, my BP was quite low.

The long-term health effects aren't well known - there aren't many people to study, and a clinical trial would be all but impossible (people would likely not adhere to it). We can make some guesses, though. For one thing, you're altering the way melatonin and cortisol work in your system. Messing with your body's chemical and hormonal balance usually doesn't turn out well for health.

We have one group to compare with: people who work night shifts. Studies have shown they're at increased risks for heart problems, ulcers, obesity, depression, some cancer, other gastrointestinal diseases, and possibly more. (Just Google it or use Scholar: http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=night+shift+worker...) I certainly experienced depression.

There are other things that are just annoying. As someone else stated, coffee is a bad idea, and so is alcohol, and I enjoy both. Most people will have to decide between holding to a schedule or attending others' events. You'll probably either eat worse at night or have to cook more. Nothing is open when you're awake. The list goes on.

I don't recommend it, but if you DO think you want to try it, still, here are some suggestions:

-You must have a completely dark room to sleep in during the daytime.

-Avoid coffee and alcohol. In fact, cut coffee and alcohol out before you change your sleep schedule. Doing both (especially if you rely on coffee) will be quite a shock.

-To adhere to the schedule, you'll have to think of what you're going to do when no one you know is awake. You need to schedule things.

-Don't forget to schedule social things. I tried to be wake up before 7 PM when many social things seem to start.

Re: Polyphasic Sleep

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post #37

Ok my friend has done this and it is definitely interesting. However, if you do polyphasic sleep, you age several times faster during that time, approximately around 5 times faster. So if you do Polyphasic Sleep for a month, you'll actually age 5 months. If you do it for 5 years, theoretically you will 25 years, whereas I believe the aging process accelerates every month. There are no research results on these number…

If you're actually trying to warn people who are thinking about trying polyphasic sleep, you're going to need to provide some data.

I'm highly doubtful of polyphasic sleep but the phrase "you age several times faster during that time, approximately around 5 times faster" is at the same time vague and yet oddly specific.

Re: Polyphasic Sleep

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After all the discussions HN has had on this topic, I'm still waiting for someone to pop up with "Yeah, I've been doing this for two years now and I'd never go back." So far the stories have all been in agreement... "it sort of kind of worked for maybe a month or twoish (with rare people sticking somewhat longer), then I hit a wall because I was ever so slightly bumped off the schedule and I just fell apart. Also in…

Exactly. Polyphasic sleep for a month means exactly nothing. I've been sleep deprived for periods longer than that, sleeping less than six hours a day. Doesn't mean that "sleep deprivation works", or that it is healthy, or that it can be sustained.

I've been polyphasic for a short time (sleeping less than 4 hours per 24 hour period) and I've been sleep deprived for longer, having one sleep at night of five hours or less a day for a while, and they feel like two completely different things.

Not to say that polyphasic is healthy or anything, but despite the slightly weird feeling, I feel much more functional when polyphasic than when sleep deprived.

Re: Polyphasic Sleep

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post #30

I think a lot of people think about this the wrong way. The way I see it, if you're able to successfully adapt to Uberman, you get an additional ~6 hours a day. Any negative effects you would experience from being on Uberman need to be collectively greater than getting 6 hours of additional life per day, in order for it to not be worth it. 6 hours per day is really awesome. It's not just additional productivity. It's…

This is true, but it can be quite difficult to maintain high energy and motivation through all of those extra hours, and bear in mind that if you're on the sleep cycle I was on, you're basically barred from doing any activity that takes more than about 3 hours.

It led to some very interesting conversations with managers at work who weren't completely happy with me sleeping at work twice a day.

Even after I stopped, I was suddenly able to nap more or less whenever I wanted which was a nice benefit.

Re: Polyphasic Sleep

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I've never been too successful with polyphasic sleep, at least not the hardcore type (6x20m naps). That said, a lot of very successful people have adopted biphasic sleeping, taking a shorter core nap (4 to 6 hours) with a nap during the day. I think this is a better approach, especially if you're in a field where you use your brain a lot. Taking a 30m nap can do wonders after lunch.
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