Seriously we have to do something about that type of articles making the front page of hacker news. It's getting out of hand lately.
Do you object to members voting up article that are of interest to them?
'I am Chelsea Manning,' says jailed soldier formerly known as Bradley
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Re: 'I am Chelsea Manning,' says jailed soldier formerly known as Bradley
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seen your "nickpickiness" leads to no other conclusion: you are homosexual, are you?
Homosexuality and gender identity aren't the same thing... I find these (spammy) posts annoying also, but what does his/her orientation have to do with anything?
ianmcstorm's two posts scream flamebait to me. I don't think this person wants a discussion.
Re: 'I am Chelsea Manning,' says jailed soldier formerly known as Bradley
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s/he/she s/him/her
Who gives a fuck?
Well, apparently Manning gives a fuck. Who has also taken on the name Chelsea now.
>I also request that, starting today, you refer to me by my new name and use the feminine pronoun (except in official mail to the confinement facility).
Re: 'I am Chelsea Manning,' says jailed soldier formerly known as Bradley
#44- Assange: Rapist
- Manning: Transgendered
- Snowden: ???
If something comes out about snowden that would offend the morality police, I'm calling propaganda conspiracy on this.
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#45Seriously we have to do something about that type of articles making the front page of hacker news. It's getting out of hand lately.
Oh don't worry. You got your wish. It's not on the front page any more. Or the second. But it's not deaded either. Interesting.
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Seen your "nickpickiness" leads to no other conclusion: you are homosexual, are you?
Homosexuality and gender identity aren't the same thing... I find these (spammy) posts annoying also, but what does his/her orientation have to do with anything?
It was, mainly, an observation. To the comment above (to which I can't reply), what is there to discuss on "s/he/she?"
Re: 'I am Chelsea Manning,' says jailed soldier formerly known as Bradley
#47Another recent story about a retired US Navy Seal that went from Chris to Kristin, tells a similar story, but without the trial elements to muddy the waters:
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nonsense. His point of view is that a women is not what he wants to become, but what he is. He just wants to be recognized as one. Also, I don't really see where there is spending involved. Even if there were, the amount would be insignificant to even care about. There is much more waste elsewhere in the system. Last but not least, this guy shouldn't even be serving the sentence he is.
That's not what I'm arguing against, I'm stating that hormone therapy should not be paid for by the military. That said, if he wants to be recognized as a woman, that means he wants to be placed in prison with other women, which is clearly an issue. IMO the military has no choice but to place him in a male facility and call him whatever he wants to be called.
You are aware, aren't you, that the military already pays for all sorts of prescription drugs for service members? What difference is there between estradiol/spironolactone on the one hand, and every other prescription drug that is paid for off post with Tricare or filled at an on post hospital? Except your revulsion towards transsexuality of course.
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Typically, they would not provide hormone therapy because a) it is not essential for the job (they pull teeth instead of fix them for crying out loud) b) this is typically something that would lead to a medical discharge and in some cases, dishonorable discharge because it wasn't listed in the health questionnaire at time of application.
Sorry, I got my articles confused. According to http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/08/22/convict... Leavenworth provides psychiatric therapy but not hormone therapy. I'm not sure where Manning is hoping to get it, but it's not clear that it's going to be taxpayer-funded.
Ooh, the magic words 'taxpayer funded' how about we also refuse to 'taxpayer fund' insulin for diabetic service members, or anti depressants for soldiers suffering from PTSD? Not gonna supply Lexapro on my dime!
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Can you stop doing this all over the thread? If you have a point to make, make it, but this is just spam.
The message(s) are the point. Misgendering people isn't nice, especially after someone has specifically laid out how they wish to be addressed. But yes, I will conceed I have been a little spammy and probably could have gone about it with less.
A little bit of tact would have been nice also. Most people in our society are still not used to referring to trans people. I highly doubt anyone here is misgendering on purpose - even people who are aware of the underlying issues will still slip up sometimes, because use of gendered pronouns is reflexive.
Hell, I have a trans friend where I still struggle with correct pronoun usage. I've known her for a long time, and it takes a lot of conscious effort to override the reflex sometimes. We try, we're not perfect, so stop browbeating us about it.