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Why Aren't More Designers Starting Companies?

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Re: Why Aren't More Designers Starting Companies?

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Fear not, truth is severely undervalued. If you want points tell feel good lies.

It's useless advice. Designers can't be founders because they're pussies? Is this really what you think?

I still don't understand why ya'll are supporting the position of 'Designers are just art school-dropouts, too neurotic to be founders.". What sort of reasoning is that?

Re: Why Aren't More Designers Starting Companies?

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This was a good attempt, but I don't think this really nailed why designers don't move into founder roles. It has a lot more to do with the psychology of the type of person that goes into being a designer in the first place. It has a lot to do with the nature of art and the fear of failure. The best designers are often frustrated artists that found comfort in design, where (perhaps subconsciously) they could use thei…

One way to say that with less speculating about motives is that entrepreneurial designers do exist, but they go into art, not business. Another point I'd make is about disruptive business models. According to Clay Christensen, it's about creating a product that's cheaper and offers a better value than incumbents. In many cases, competitors are providing too much performance, and disruptive businesses offer less perfo…

Thats a really good point. Its a hard lesson for any type of craftsman to understand that beauty doesn't always translate to a successful business

Re: Why Aren't More Designers Starting Companies?

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As a designer I find the major hurdle of starting a business is the cost of development.

Also, if we are just starting out on our own, there's a chance that we aren't coming from a job that was paying the kind of money for a good base.

The assumption that I'm some sort of failed artist who 'fell back' to design is bullshit. I'm a creative and design is just one of a dozen outlets I have. I've had a soap company, a candle company, a line of various bath products, sold t-shirts, thrown parties, planned weddings, pressed 1" buttons, provided consultation and various marketing services for bands, wedding photography, product photography and more. My story is not unique for my people. :)

Re: Why Aren't More Designers Starting Companies?

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Because it's really hard to pitch a company based on a PSD that you can't implement. But sure, whatever cutesy anecdote or impression of reality you want to sell me will also suffice.

Just because you're a designer doesn't mean you shouldn't have cofounders that can code and do some of the hustling. That's why the hacker/hustler/designer paradigm exists...

Re: Why Aren't More Designers Starting Companies?

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This was a good attempt, but I don't think this really nailed why designers don't move into founder roles. It has a lot more to do with the psychology of the type of person that goes into being a designer in the first place. It has a lot to do with the nature of art and the fear of failure. The best designers are often frustrated artists that found comfort in design, where (perhaps subconsciously) they could use thei…

Edit: Downvotes? Really? I write a thoughtful introspective comment based on my personal experience of being a design-trained single founder and you give me downvotes? Ugh

>> Downvotes? Really?

HN is getting to where you can't have an intellectual opposing view. We are being bullied (down voted) into sameness, borg-ness. Are geeks truly petrified of being in the same room with a different personality type? I've up voted you to take the sting away.

Re: Why Aren't More Designers Starting Companies?

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Well at least it comes from a place of actual experience vs your pithy responses. Honestly, feel of a failure is a thing (to use language that won't trigger your elite-o-meter). I don't necessarily agree that this defines the designer "type" but I applaud the self-awareness to consider something like this.

Everyone has fear of failure, that's just normal. My point is that designers are not just art school dropouts, and I certainlyI still don't understand why ya'll keep supporting that position as if had any merit.

That's an uncharitable way to phrase it though. The point is more like designers are wannabe Picassos who had bigger creative dreams for their work to be based solely on its own merit without any commercial context, but they ended up settling for a day job solving mundane business problems.

It's no different from an engineer getting a safe job at an established company instead of taking the risk to found a company themselves. Only it's a lot riskier for the artist since there's a lot less money in the (working) art world than in the startup world.

Re: Why Aren't More Designers Starting Companies?

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Everyone has fear of failure, that's just normal. My point is that designers are not just art school dropouts, and I certainlyI still don't understand why ya'll keep supporting that position as if had any merit.

That's an uncharitable way to phrase it though. The point is more like designers are wannabe Picassos who had bigger creative dreams for their work to be based solely on its own merit without any commercial context, but they ended up settling for a day job solving mundane business problems. It's no different from an engineer getting a safe job at an established company instead of taking the risk to found a company th…

Exactly. I used fine art as an analogy here but in reality many of the designers I know have creative ambitions more in terms of music, photography, illustration etc. Basically if you're in a creative job chances are you're doing it because you compromised between the desire to create art and the desire to have a paycheck. Sure there's a handful of people out there who longed to be a designer from childhood rather than adopting it out of practicality, but I'd say they're in the minority

Re: Why Aren't More Designers Starting Companies?

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Edit: Downvotes? Really? I write a thoughtful introspective comment based on my personal experience of being a design-trained single founder and you give me downvotes? Ugh

>> Downvotes? Really? HN is getting to where you can't have an intellectual opposing view. We are being bullied (down voted) into sameness, borg-ness. Are geeks truly petrified of being in the same room with a different personality type? I've up voted you to take the sting away.

Thanks. At least somebody understood the reason why I griped about downvotes

Re: Why Aren't More Designers Starting Companies?

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Why don't more designers have founder skills? Or why don't more founders have design skills? Good designers are rare, and good founders are rare. Individuals who are both good designers _and_ good founders should be extremely rare.

That doesn't tell the whole story though. Good engineers are rare too but there still happen to be lots of good founders who are good engineers.
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