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Re: Persona makes signing in easy for Gmail users

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post #34

Someone still needs to solve the "what verifier do I use problem" in a decentralized way, or we're going to see Persona follow OAuth and be dominated by Google, Facebook, and Twitter accounts.

When Persona gets integrated into the browser, the browser will remember which email address you want to use.

Re: Persona makes signing in easy for Gmail users

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post #13

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had. was dropped a while back :'(

Hilariously it was dropped with no real notification, and one day my account just stopped working. I had to make a new one, because there was no way to access my previous account.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3618082

Re: Persona makes signing in easy for Gmail users

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post #31

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What is the benefit of this (from a developer/website perspective) over using OpenID? I can't really see the difference... obviously I'm missing something fundamental...

The main things are ubiquity, ease of use, and privacy. - Persona works with any email address. This means you can reach anyone that hits your site, without forcing them to sign up with a third party provider. - I can answer the question "what email address do you want to log in with?" I can't answer the question "what is your OpenID?" nor can I remember which of the 13 buttons on Stack Overflow I used last. - OpenID…

http://profiles.google.com/xistence/

Or that was my Google OpenID at one point, not sure if it still acts like one or not.

Re: Persona makes signing in easy for Gmail users

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post #13

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had. was dropped a while back :'(

Hilariously it was dropped with no real notification, and one day my account just stopped working. I had to make a new one, because there was no way to access my previous account.

Yeah, I very luckily had my account still logged in on one browser, and was able to save it :|

Re: Persona makes signing in easy for Gmail users

#46
post #16

I hope there will soon be a way to `apt-get install mozilla-persona` on a personal server. That would seriously help the deployment a really decentralized Persona.

Tell me more!

Do you want Persona authentication on your website or do you want a deamon that is an identity provider for your personal domain?

What language or platform would be ideal?

Re: Persona makes signing in easy for Gmail users

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post #14
post #9

It doesn't work with google apps, unfortunately. Which is completely logical when I think about it since persona would not use the mx record to find the identity provider.

Actually, why not? Looking for that "aspmx.l.google.com" entry in the MX record would let them know, with a high degree of certainty, that Google is the login authority for that particular email address. Is there something I'm missing?

As callahad said, there are some issues and it isn't a core priority for the team.

That said... here is one of the building blocks https://github.com/mozilla/browserid/issues/2932

Get involved and implement this as a NodeJS module.

Re: Persona makes signing in easy for Gmail users

#49

So...that means instead of someone knowing my password to get into xyz website, they can easily just use persona which in a few clicks will let them into my account?

Sure, if they're logged into your Gmail account at the same time. At which point it's already game over. :)

Re: Persona makes signing in easy for Gmail users

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post #34

Someone still needs to solve the "what verifier do I use problem" in a decentralized way, or we're going to see Persona follow OAuth and be dominated by Google, Facebook, and Twitter accounts.

I think Persona does solve that, or at least, is designed to. Could you say more about what you're thinking? (Persona always prompts you with a completely free-form email input field and routes you to the appropriate provider based on that.)

You haven't reached the "verifier" step yet, which is step 4 https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Persona/Qui...
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