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Stop Allowing App Reviews From Beta iOS Versions

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Re: Stop Allowing App Reviews From Beta iOS Versions

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Post by clarky07 »

diminish wrote: post #33
clarky07 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not a public beta in any way shape or form. The only way to get the beta is to be a developer paying $99 a year to Apple. The "users" do not have iOS 7 and therefore bad reviews based on an unreleased BETA OS should not be allowed. Most of these issues aren't even something wrong with the apps. They will get fixed when the OS stops being buggy.

out of curiosity, does apple read stuart's blog or HN? there must be a better way to signal this to ios7 program management when you are signed up for beta...do they have a dev feedback option, which many devs would request the same wish...

i suspect Apple is well aware that devs don't want beta users to be able to leave reviews. It has been a think since the app store started. They just don't have much incentive to do the work needed to make the change happen. It likely only effects a small number of people, and not an incredibly huge effect for the most part.

Re: Stop Allowing App Reviews From Beta iOS Versions

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Post by verelo »

grecy wrote: post #8

When a customer submits an app review from a beta iOS, that review should just be emailed directly to the developer, and not show up on any of the "official" review lists that other customers can see. That way the developer is getting feedback about potential problems with the upcoming iOS, and can fix them, but it doesn't hurt their image for the 99.9% of customers running the non-beta iOS.

All i can say to this is SERIOUSLY! It drives me insane that our customers who are just technical enough to be dangerous can figure out how to get iOS 7 and give us feedback. Its distracting for the team and not helpful.

Apple needs to sort this kind of stuff out, i'm seriously frustrated by how many problems (dev centre + iOS 7) we're currently going through that we have zero control over.

Re: Stop Allowing App Reviews From Beta iOS Versions

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Post by rogerchucker »

The root of this problem, I think, is that Apple requires the $100 membership fee (and thus provide a developer account) even for testing apps on one's own device. If Apple, instead required this fee (and gave developer accounts) only when somebody has submitted an app for publishing on the App store for the first time, then there would be a legitimate filter against people who like to download betas just for experimenting or are plain nincompoops pretending to be tech bloggers.

As an added benefit, by doing this, Apple would also invite a LOT more developers into its fold who would like to experiment with apps on their own device without committing to publishing any.

Re: Stop Allowing App Reviews From Beta iOS Versions

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Post by rogerchucker »

RKearney wrote: post #19

What people seem to forget is parts of iOS 7 are still under NDA, yet people race to post videos and full-length articles of how "the new beta has 10 more pixels on this icon!" That, plus the fact that there are websites that sell UUID registrations so non-develoeprs can use the betas are the reason this happens. So, instead of blocking iOS betas from submitting reviews, how about everyone as a whole stops breaking t…

I just never understood the grand benefits of imposing NDA on iOS/OSX pre-release versions. I can't picture this giving Apple a big strategic advantage over its competitors in mobile OS.

Re: Stop Allowing App Reviews From Beta iOS Versions

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Post by GuiA »

diminish wrote: post #33
clarky07 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not a public beta in any way shape or form. The only way to get the beta is to be a developer paying $99 a year to Apple. The "users" do not have iOS 7 and therefore bad reviews based on an unreleased BETA OS should not be allowed. Most of these issues aren't even something wrong with the apps. They will get fixed when the OS stops being buggy.

out of curiosity, does apple read stuart's blog or HN? there must be a better way to signal this to ios7 program management when you are signed up for beta...do they have a dev feedback option, which many devs would request the same wish...

They do have a bug tracker to which any registered developer can submit.

Re: Stop Allowing App Reviews From Beta iOS Versions

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Post by caryhartline »

nnnnni wrote: post #7
[deleted] wrote: post #5

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That screws over developers who are aiming for iOS 6 as the target for the new release. What if there's a major bug in a program? Are they not supposed to release a bugfix update just because iOS is currently in a beta program?! THAT would unfairly cause a lot of bad reviews for a program.

Aiming for iOS 6? 92% of developers are planning to release their apps for iOS 7 as soon as it comes out and about half of them are planning to drop support for iOS 6.

This isn't Android where legacy applications need to be supported for several years just because many of the phones phones won't update.

Re: Stop Allowing App Reviews From Beta iOS Versions

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Post by potatolicious »

GuiA wrote: post #45
diminish wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

out of curiosity, does apple read stuart's blog or HN? there must be a better way to signal this to ios7 program management when you are signed up for beta...do they have a dev feedback option, which many devs would request the same wish...

They do have a bug tracker to which any registered developer can submit.

It's really more like a black hole to which you can sacrifice words and pray for the best.

Re: Stop Allowing App Reviews From Beta iOS Versions

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Post by potatolicious »

jcampbell1 wrote: post #26

Can someone comment on what is going to happen when iOS 7 is released? The upgrade from 5->6 didn't break any apps by default. It appears 7 resizes all the stock controls, and this breaks tons of apps by default. Will an existing iOS6 app work unchanged in iOS 7, or will it have to be fixed.

Without going into too many details, iOS6 apps should continue working, as anything built with the iOS6 SDK will be operating in some kind of back-compat mode.

That being said, some of the back-compat modes don't really work due to large changes in the underlying codebase.

Re: Stop Allowing App Reviews From Beta iOS Versions

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Post by htp »

GuiA wrote: post #45
diminish wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

out of curiosity, does apple read stuart's blog or HN? there must be a better way to signal this to ios7 program management when you are signed up for beta...do they have a dev feedback option, which many devs would request the same wish...

They do have a bug tracker to which any registered developer can submit.

Yep- send bugs and feature requests to https://bugreport.apple.com/ . Everything gets read, eventually, by a real live person.

There’s more information available about reporting bugs (like which logs are useful, where to find them on your device, and how to get them off your device) at https://developer.apple.com/bug-reporting/ .

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