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Re: Vintageous: Vim emulation for Sublime Text 3

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Post by nilkn » Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 11:45 PM UTC

benjamincburns wrote: post #31

nilkn wrote: post #26

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Sublime Text has a much better GUI front-end than gvim or MacVim. So for someone who doesn't want to work in a terminal and wants to use a GUI based editor, they may feel that a fully featured vim mode in Sublime Text would offer the best of both worlds: rich keyboard-controlled text editing and a beautiful front-end GUI. I just use vim inside tmux, but that's mostly because I have to write a significant amount of co…

The combination of using vim and having to debug stuff in awkward places (on boats in rough seas, 20ft in the air on hydraulic scaffolding, in garages) with text-only interfaces (serial terminals), has totally changed me. I went from having 4 monitors to working on a 13" rMBP. My personal preference is vim in a quake-style terminal (yakuake on linux or iTerm2's hotkey window in OS X) with a minimal amount of transpar…

I still love using multiple monitors (I currently dedicate an entire 27" monitor to a single full-screen terminal with tmux as the "window manager"), but it is really nice having the know-how to do the full development cycle from a terminal. I used to be afraid of command-line stuff and I think it really held me back in some ways. Because I used the terminal only when forced to I never could remember how to actually use it beyond the most trivial stuff, which just made it more frustrating when I had to. And I never could find a true tiling window manager on OS X that I liked; tmux works great for that out of the box. I still want to experiment with an xmonad-based workflow on Linux, but I haven't really had a reason to yet.

My job forced me to get over that, and though I can still appreciate a good GUI-based editor I don't feel any need to switch to one anymore.

Re: Vintageous: Vim emulation for Sublime Text 3

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Post by iguana » Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 11:47 PM UTC

This works a lot better than the included "Vintage" mode.

I've spent the majority of the past 15 years in vi(m), and have recently switched to Sublime for working on projects with many, many files, plus mouse support.

Re: Vintageous: Vim emulation for Sublime Text 3

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Post by rzendacott » Thu, Aug 01, 2013, 12:06 AM UTC

avolcano wrote: post #4

rzendacott wrote: post #2

Ah, I love vim mode for Sublime. As the end user, what will be different about this package? Better support for commands? Additionally, is there a page that lists how much progress has been made? Is the support at least at the same level of Vintage's yet?

I'd love to know this too, but the author doesn't seem interested in explaining it: https://github.com/guillermooo/Vintageous/issues/267 I installed it, and it works exactly the same, as far as I can tell.

Another contributor commented - it looks like it supports more Vim commands and is being actively maintained, unlike Vintage.

Re: Vintageous: Vim emulation for Sublime Text 3

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Post by JonnieCache » Thu, Aug 01, 2013, 2:50 PM UTC

rzendacott wrote: post #7

avolcano wrote: post #4

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I'd love to know this too, but the author doesn't seem interested in explaining it: https://github.com/guillermooo/Vintageous/issues/267 I installed it, and it works exactly the same, as far as I can tell.

Wow, he/she does seem to be quite disinterested. That's disappointing. It would be really useful to know..

> disinterested

uninterested. I know we're all supposed to be descriptivists now, but I can't let such a useful distinction fade away.

Re: Vintageous: Vim emulation for Sublime Text 3

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Post by lucisferre » Thu, Aug 01, 2013, 3:35 PM UTC

superchink wrote: post #23

lucisferre wrote: post #6

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I've tried a few times and just can't do it. The completion isn't actually that great (not that VIm completion plugins are very good either) and Vintage mode is at best a poor-mans VIm emulation. There is no sane way to control splits with the keyboard and block selections just don't work well. Search and replace functionality is also not great compared to my experience with VIm. Too many deal breakers for me.

You likely will still not be convinced, but some of those issues (off the top of my head, at least the splits with keyboard) seem to be addressed by Vintageous (and some [plugins][0] for it). [0]: https://github.com/rodcloutier/Vintageous-Origami "Vintageous Origami"

I've used Origami before, but Sublime's splitting is just fundamentally flawed, simply having some keyboard shortcuts can't fix that.