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The sad story of Facebook Platform

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Re: The sad story of Facebook Platform

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post #36

My problem with facebook; it's a reminder of how much our current society bothers me. At first is was cute-- kind of, but as the time went on it just got nauseating. The narcissism The birthdays The baby picture--animals fine, but enough with your spawn. The touching quotes The pictures of what you ate. The head tilted portrait. The reminder that people don't change. Actually, the only facebook posts I can stomach ar…

What are this amish posts? I've never seen them(I live in Spain)

Re: The sad story of Facebook Platform

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Facebook made three clear mistakes: - Not building in a revenue model into their platform, like Apple did with iOS. This is so stupid. - Not creating clear and consistent access rules around the social graph and notifications, with the ability to throttle down (but not altogether remove) access for offenders. They could even automate the throttling based on user feedback (in the form of clicks). - Breaking things con…

I apologise for my ignorance, but can you elaborate on how the iOS has a revenue model? Are you talking about the Apple Store?

Apple's App store has purchases, in app purchases, and an ad network baked in. Granted, they've had longer to think it through.

Re: The sad story of Facebook Platform

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It's worth noting that a lot of the apps that Facebook "killed off" (iLike, Social Reader, RockYou, Zynga games, etc.) really did detract from the user experience. Let's take Washington Post's Social Reader as a case study. You had to authorize the app in order to read the articles (that were often loaded with linkbait-y titles), and any time you did read (or click on) an article it automatically shared it with all o…

Couldn't have said it better myself -- this is exactly what I was thinking as I read this article. I was really surprised that they spent so long lamenting the loss of spam and ugly widgets on users' profiles.

I remember when they opened it up so you could add 3rd party widgets to your profile, and that was dangerously close to myspace... just about as close as Facebook ever got. And I'm glad they didn't get any closer. The reason facebook took off against myspace was that the user experience was good and it was clean. Ruining that is just not something they could afford.

I think you really nailed it with this particular statement:

> Unfortunately spam, especially when it's coming from your friends, works like a charm.

Re: The sad story of Facebook Platform

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It's worth noting that a lot of the apps that Facebook "killed off" (iLike, Social Reader, RockYou, Zynga games, etc.) really did detract from the user experience. Let's take Washington Post's Social Reader as a case study. You had to authorize the app in order to read the articles (that were often loaded with linkbait-y titles), and any time you did read (or click on) an article it automatically shared it with all o…

Not that it isn't a hard problem, but it really casts the lie to the power of the rockstar ninja.

Re: The sad story of Facebook Platform

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post #3

Maybe Microsoft will buy Facebook and kill two birds with one stone.

Zuck would never sell.

Maybe not for the money, but I could see Zuckerberg being in charge of MicroFace being good for him and both companies. Sort of like AOL-Time Warner only hopefully without the bubble as backdrop.

Re: The sad story of Facebook Platform

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post #41
post #36

My problem with facebook; it's a reminder of how much our current society bothers me. At first is was cute-- kind of, but as the time went on it just got nauseating. The narcissism The birthdays The baby picture--animals fine, but enough with your spawn. The touching quotes The pictures of what you ate. The head tilted portrait. The reminder that people don't change. Actually, the only facebook posts I can stomach ar…

What are this amish posts? I've never seen them(I live in Spain)

I believe he's speaking on users in his feed that are Amish: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish

Re: The sad story of Facebook Platform

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post #12

Facebook made three clear mistakes: - Not building in a revenue model into their platform, like Apple did with iOS. This is so stupid. - Not creating clear and consistent access rules around the social graph and notifications, with the ability to throttle down (but not altogether remove) access for offenders. They could even automate the throttling based on user feedback (in the form of clicks). - Breaking things con…

My brief, frustrating experience maintaining a Facebook application consisted of the app breaking every two weeks as Facebook somewhat randomly changed things without warning. When did you have this experience? How long ago is it? For now quite some time, Facebook has been open with upcoming "breaking changes", giving Facebook App developers three months in advance to adapt accordingly: https://developers.facebook.co…

How about two weeks ago? They fail to mention in their list of breaking changes that the id format would changed from profileId_postId_commentId to profileId:postId:commentIdThatMightContainUnderscores

Except that not all posts follow the new ID format. Not all new posts even follow it. It's now a mix of the two.

Re: The sad story of Facebook Platform

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post #30
post #11

I have had a difficult reading relationship with pandodaily. After some good initial articles, they started producing trash. This article, for a change, is reasonably good.

Same with Verge. A lot of sites are following Business Insider and Mashable down the high-volume shit-chute because that's how you make money when people won't pay for stuff.

So, what is a good tech blog to read these days?

Re: The sad story of Facebook Platform

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even though it generally drives me nuts, the "move fast and break things" mindset can work in some situations. Building a platform for others to rely upon is not one of them. I never understood why they repeatedly broke their platform so much, unless they honestly did not care how it affected those downstream. But if they didn't care, why even build a platform? Even the most cowboy of coders can see why always breaki…

I wonder what this mindset does for the future employability of FB people, do people really want to employ people who are (basically) reckless?

Well, they can turn it around: "been there, done that, learnt lessons with the intensity of a thousand suns".

Re: The sad story of Facebook Platform

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Facebook’s inconstant behavior on Platform, however, has never been malicious. Rather, it is a result of an engineering-led culture" Seems me and pandodaily have a different definition of "engineer". I'm not an engineer, as I don't have an engineering degree, but I do feel bad for my friends who do, are professionals, and get grouped in with the type of programmers who are just haphazardly winging it to this degree.…

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