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Microsoft drove the bus off the cliff, now it tries to speed up

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Re: Microsoft drove the bus off the cliff, now it tries to speed up

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Recently purchased a windows and to my horror, despite a i3 processor it was slower than my celeron PC running XP. There was no reason why a machine just unboxed should have been so slow. Soon I figured out it came with following crapware 1. Google chrome with Bing to be homepage and defautl search engine. I even suspected that Chrome Exe might be bloated so I reinstalled it. 2. It came with Norton antivirus which co…

That sounds like it's mostly Lenovo's fault rather than Microsoft's. All the preinstalled software, the excessively out-of-date OS image, and perhaps worst of all -- the preinstalled Norton AV and "internet security" when Windows 8 has AV, antimalware and firewall built-in at no cost.

Not to tout the Surface, but if you had bought that directly from Microsoft, it would've cold booted in about 8 seconds (faster after first run) to Probably one of the reasons Microsoft is getting tired of relying on OEMs to sell their OS -- they give customers such a terrible out-of-box experience.

Re: Microsoft drove the bus off the cliff, now it tries to speed up

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there are a lot of these assumptions on MS everyday and all i see are people trying to predict the downfall of MS in order to get famous. tablet that, PC this, yada yada... if MS is really going down the cliff why is it that they are still making billions NOW?! nobody's going to use a tablet in the office typing their 10 page report...

The same exact predictions have been made constantly for at least a decade. Meanwhile, their sales are up 150%, their profit is up 200%, and Windows is no longer a required business for the company to survive.

I'm sure they'll have lots of problems going forward. I'm not aware of many companies that don't - what 40 year old technology companies don't have problems? Given that only a few of those exist today, and even less large-scale 40 year old tech companies exist, I'd say Microsoft is doing just fine.

Re: Microsoft drove the bus off the cliff, now it tries to speed up

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They make more off of Android devices than Google does. Maybe their strategy is to build such sucky products that more people pick up Android devices.

They make more off of Android devices than Google does. People keep saying this, though I suppose someone at Microsoft must be embezzling huge sums of money because this purported big Android windfall still fails to appear on any Microsoft quarterly report. Dear NSA: the FBI or someone should look into this. This myth is founded on Microsoft continually getting agreements with manufacturers to give them patent immuni…

> because this purported big Android windfall still fails to appear on any Microsoft quarterly report

It shows up under the reporting of the Windows Phone Division:

“Windows Phone revenue, reflecting patent licensing revenue and sales of Windows Phone licenses, increased $222 million for the quarter,”

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2011/10/micros...

> Given the actual reality that these dollar amounts don't exist

The estimate is Microsoft gets about $8 for each Android device sold:

http://www.zdnet.com/microsofts-most-profitable-mobile-opera...

Re: Microsoft drove the bus off the cliff, now it tries to speed up

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Semiaccurate is living up to its name.

Yeah, Microsoft has lost its way. It has some amazing strengths and a lot of smart people. It can turn itself around. But the parallels to IBM are astounding. Their internal politics and HR policies are insane. They have meetings upon meetings. Etc.

But they know they are losing and, unlike the IE/Netscape battle, they can't win on price and bundling. This level of awareness gives them a chance.

If the re-org works, it will break the power of the intrenched divisions and they can stop being their own worst enemy. Or maybe it will just get Balmer fired. (I vote Scott Gu for CEO :)

Re: Microsoft drove the bus off the cliff, now it tries to speed up

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't help that the writing in the article is pretty bad. I don't think M$ will go under (think: Fortune 500 + gov't), but as a consumer I don't want any of their new stuff.

> as a consumer I don't want any of their new stuff. I think we could've guessed that from your use of "M$" in the prior clause.

Hitting shift-M shift-4 could still be a force of habit for anyone who came of age in the MS antitrust trial era.

Re: Microsoft drove the bus off the cliff, now it tries to speed up

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Microsoft is far from failed. They might not be doing great with tablets and phones, but they have a few other businesses that happen to make billions upon billions each quarter. The PC is declining, it isn't dead. And it won't be any time soon.

So they are in the "cash cow" phase of their life, heading towards the "dog" quarter. http://www.netmba.com/strategy/matrix/bcg/

so you think microsoft is heading to a low market share position in the markets they currently have ~90% market share in? That's certainly an interesting opinion. Everyone else is just sad that the PC market isn't growing fast anymore.

Re: Microsoft drove the bus off the cliff, now it tries to speed up

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They make more off of Android devices than Google does. People keep saying this, though I suppose someone at Microsoft must be embezzling huge sums of money because this purported big Android windfall still fails to appear on any Microsoft quarterly report. Dear NSA: the FBI or someone should look into this. This myth is founded on Microsoft continually getting agreements with manufacturers to give them patent immuni…

> because this purported big Android windfall still fails to appear on any Microsoft quarterly report It shows up under the reporting of the Windows Phone Division: “Windows Phone revenue, reflecting patent licensing revenue and sales of Windows Phone licenses, increased $222 million for the quarter,” http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2011/10/micros... > Given the actual reality that these dollar amounts…

It shows up under the reporting of the Windows Phone Division

Windows Phone exists in the entertainment division, which is a division that neither pulls in big numbers, nor actually produces a profit. For the most recent quarter it still lost over $100MM.

If these massive Android profits are hidden in there -- in a division that hosts both the xbox and Windows Phone, and has revenue of just two billion a quarter -- then it can't be very big.

The estimate is Microsoft gets about $8 for each Android device sold

There are about 1.5 million Android devices sold a day. Do you think Microsoft is making $360 million a month from Android? $4.3 billion a year?

There is no universe where that is even remotely close to accurate, or Microsoft would be screaming from the mountaintops about their incredible, pure profit success. Instead they have to stuff the purported earnings into a nebulous division.

Re: Microsoft drove the bus off the cliff, now it tries to speed up

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> Last fall SemiAccurate was one of the few voices criticizing Windows 8 o_0

Well it was part of a longer sentence including Surface and WART (windows on RT) which you chose to omit.

Even with the full sentence, it's no less eyebrow-raising. Everyone I know was criticizing all 3.

Re: Microsoft drove the bus off the cliff, now it tries to speed up

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Recently purchased a windows and to my horror, despite a i3 processor it was slower than my celeron PC running XP. There was no reason why a machine just unboxed should have been so slow. Soon I figured out it came with following crapware 1. Google chrome with Bing to be homepage and defautl search engine. I even suspected that Chrome Exe might be bloated so I reinstalled it. 2. It came with Norton antivirus which co…

Get machine, wipe HD, reinstall Windows, reinstall drivers. Windows Update is an unfortunately necessary evil, it becomes more painful the longer it has been since a major Windows release.

Huh? WU is hardly even noticeable in 8, at all.
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