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Reminding Starbucks that Beautiful Code Should Make Beautiful Language

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Re: Reminding Starbucks that Beautiful Code Should Make Beautiful Language

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Wasn’t that easy? No, because there are a reasonably large number of people, especially in Starbucks' home town, who want to be referred to as ze, zer, or one of a number of other gender-neutral, recently-minted pronouns. http://www.warren-wilson.edu/~writingcenter/Gender-Neutral_L... So now you either need to ask a user for their name and preferred pronoun, or just refer to them as "they".

Did you read the article? The point he made was, if you don't know which gendered pronoun to use, just use their name! "In a case like the generic email I got from Starbucks where the gender of the purchaser is likely unknown, the solution is even easier. Try this little programmatic trick: [$first_name] [$last_name] wanted to make your day so [$first_name] sent you a $20.00 USD Starbucks Card eGift to spend on your…

> Also, what is "especially in Starbucks' home town" supposed to mean?

Seattle has a relatively large genderqueer population.

Re: Reminding Starbucks that Beautiful Code Should Make Beautiful Language

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post #2

"Matt Hofstadt wanted to make your day so Matt sent you..." is uglier and less pleasant to read than the version with "they've". I don't see any argument in the article for what's actually wrong with using "they" - sure, it violates one of English's alleged rules, but the author acknowledges that those rules don't actually matter. (Personally I think women should insist on being called "he" - "she" is a grammatical d…

(I'm a woman and I really would rather not textually eradicate my gender, thank you very much.)

"poetess" has been more or less eliminated from the language, and "actress" and "policewoman" are on their way out - at the behest of feminist groups. So it seems your compatriots disagree with you?

Re: Reminding Starbucks that Beautiful Code Should Make Beautiful Language

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post #6

I dislike the premise of this article. All the alternatives have worse disadvantages: - repeating the name "Matt" is awkward - gender is an awkward requirement for sending a giftcard - assuming someone is male unless they are known to be female is awkward - "he/she" is awkward And, crucially: - singular they is widely used and understood and has significant historical precedent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_…

Of course, there's always the option of side-stepping the entire issue:

> Matt Hofstadt wanted to make your day, and has sent you a $20 gift card...

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