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Overtime is Morphine

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Re: Overtime is Morphine

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Post by comrade_ogilvy »

epa wrote: post #13

Consider the industry you are going into before complaining about overtime. I am expected to work long over time hours on a regular (daily) basis during busy seasons without extra compensation and this is what I expected going in. Highly skilled individuals who have extensive training will be 'put to work' in order to derive the benefits of this training by their employer. You are willing to put up with this behavior…

Considering the norms of the particular industry would be good advice, but there are often choices within the industry. Dressing up False Choices in machismo not only obscures reality, but plays right into the hands of managers inclined to take advantage.

Re: Overtime is Morphine

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Post by comrade_ogilvy »

ExpiredLink wrote: post #32

Overtime makes sense from an employer's point of view. That's why the problem will persist for employees.

If it really was a consistent win for the employers, then perhaps it is a non-issue in the larger sense -- employees just need to negotiate hours vs. compensation. Whatever.

I think the deeper insight of TFA is that there may be short term gains for the employer, but the long term results are muddy or outright negative -- management becomes addicted to poor management habits that hurt the company health in myriad ways.

Re: Overtime is Morphine

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Post by epa »

flyinRyan wrote: post #24
epa wrote: post #13

Consider the industry you are going into before complaining about overtime. I am expected to work long over time hours on a regular (daily) basis during busy seasons without extra compensation and this is what I expected going in. Highly skilled individuals who have extensive training will be 'put to work' in order to derive the benefits of this training by their employer. You are willing to put up with this behavior…

What a disgusting post. "Pay your dues just like I did". Just because you chose to be exploited with the hope that you'll some day get compensated for it doesn't mean the model is right. And your quip about where the highest quality innovate work comes from is unproven and probably unprovable.

Maybe the issue here is that I know 100% that the effort I put in now will lead me to success in the future.

Re: Overtime is Morphine

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Post by flyinRyan »

epa wrote: post #44
flyinRyan wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What a disgusting post. "Pay your dues just like I did". Just because you chose to be exploited with the hope that you'll some day get compensated for it doesn't mean the model is right. And your quip about where the highest quality innovate work comes from is unproven and probably unprovable.

Maybe the issue here is that I know 100% that the effort I put in now will lead me to success in the future.

If you "know" that then you're wrong. Success isn't a guarantee even if you work hard. Ask Nikola Tesla.
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