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Re: A search engine built by the crowd

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Post by ultramundane828 »

c54 wrote: post #21

Google is a good name for a search engine, and easily usable as a verb. Yahoo is pretty good, and was used as a verb for all of the 90s and early 2000s. IMO not as good as "I'm going to google that", "I'm going to yahoo that" sounds vaguely sexual. DuckDuckGo and AskJeeves are terribad: "I'm going to duck duck go that"? No. Blippex is better than ddg or ask jeeves, but still not too great. Coming up with a good produ…

I kind of feel like "blip" is way, way better than all of the above. It's a word that's already a word, and its use on Blippex is almost congruous with the actual word. In my mind, that's a win.

Re: A search engine built by the crowd

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Post by geraldbaeck »

vmarsy wrote: post #39

Interesting idea, but I tried simple searches : Facebook gmail news ycombinator countries in europe wiki Did you gather enough data already ? All of these seraches were not successful. There was no Facebook link in the first search, no Gmail link in the second one , no news.ycombinator in the 3rd one, and the only wikipedia link I got in the last search was : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_champions

I don't think that those "generic" term are the main advantage of Blippex. But if you search for example for "NSA" on Blippex (https://www.blippex.org/?q=NSA), we are assuming that you will get those articles about the NSA which is currently the most interesting or the most read. -Gerald (Disclosure: I am the CTO of archify/Blippex.)

Re: A search engine built by the crowd

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Post by mcintyre1994 »

geraldbaeck wrote: post #34
mcintyre1994 wrote: post #31

Hmm, this is an interesting algorithm, but I'd challenge its major assumption for a lot of searches. I don't have metrics, so of course my own assumptions can be challenged also, feel free to. I think that a lot of search engine enquiries are essentially questions, with an answer that can be considered correct. Absolutely not all, but I think enough that they should certainly be considered. In that case, a site which…

I think you guesses are absolutely right. We never intended to compete against other engines in the field of "Answers". I think you will always get a better result for ""Population of America" if you search for ai at DuckDuckGo or Google. But in the other hand if you search for example for "NSA" on Blippex ( https://www.blippex.org/?q=NSA ), we are assuming that you will get those articles about the NSA which is curr…

That's fair enough, it seems like it would be really useful for article searching, like the NSA one you gave (great, example, blew Google out the water!). I can see it being great for research too, assuming academics spend the most time on a good source which seems reasonable. I'll definitely be giving this a go for some searches, really nice!

Oh, and a quick suggestion: Have you considered a Firefox search engine addon? I do most searches from the omnibar, and I think more people would switch search engine up there than manually go via blippex.com

Re: A search engine built by the crowd

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Post by geraldbaeck »

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #44
geraldbaeck wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you guesses are absolutely right. We never intended to compete against other engines in the field of "Answers". I think you will always get a better result for ""Population of America" if you search for ai at DuckDuckGo or Google. But in the other hand if you search for example for "NSA" on Blippex ( https://www.blippex.org/?q=NSA ), we are assuming that you will get those articles about the NSA which is curr…

That's fair enough, it seems like it would be really useful for article searching, like the NSA one you gave (great, example, blew Google out the water!). I can see it being great for research too, assuming academics spend the most time on a good source which seems reasonable. I'll definitely be giving this a go for some searches, really nice! Oh, and a quick suggestion: Have you considered a Firefox search engine ad…

Thanks. Yes we will implement a Firefox search engine addon soon.

Re: A search engine built by the crowd

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Post by vmarsy »

geraldbaeck wrote: post #43
vmarsy wrote: post #39

Interesting idea, but I tried simple searches : Facebook gmail news ycombinator countries in europe wiki Did you gather enough data already ? All of these seraches were not successful. There was no Facebook link in the first search, no Gmail link in the second one , no news.ycombinator in the 3rd one, and the only wikipedia link I got in the last search was : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_champions

I don't think that those "generic" term are the main advantage of Blippex. But if you search for example for "NSA" on Blippex ( https://www.blippex.org/?q=NSA ), we are assuming that you will get those articles about the NSA which is currently the most interesting or the most read. -Gerald (Disclosure: I am the CTO of archify/Blippex.)

I see, if there is enough data It would then make a lot of sense to search for :

{A language/framework/... you want to learn about} tutorial

As some comments said, the best website are not necessarily the one you spend most of your time on. But tutorials are an exception.

Re: A search engine built by the crowd

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Post by lucb1e »

geraldbaeck wrote: post #37
lucb1e wrote: post #12

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Well that was a quick response, at least that's a positive thing :). I installed the add-on. Testing the search engine, searches seem to take forever. It keeps displaying the spinning icon in the orange square next to my query. Edit: Ah the niceness of asynchronous javascript. It returns an error (I can see it in the JS console) but the page never displays that to me. Good ol' page reloads wouldn't have done that . I…

Could you please send me a link to the header modifying addon. So I can fix that. gb@blippex.org

I sent you an e-mail together with the console log, containing response codes I'm getting. Hope this helps :)

Re: A search engine built by the crowd

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Post by lucb1e »

karli wrote: post #25
karli wrote: post #18

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Strange, should work in under one second, but you need to have javascript enabled, the site is made in AngularJS (so no hidden things there too)

PS: i hope the it's problem is now solved :)

Actually no it's still there :(. I sent geraldbaeck an e-mail like he asked. Thanks for following up though.

Re: A search engine built by the crowd

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Post by DavidWanjiru »

How do you differentiate between useful dwell and useless dwell? I often need to spend some time on a page before I realize this is not what I'm looking for. How will you tell? And now that we're talking about search, I had an experience on google that I found very odd. I was looking for the Richard Marx song, "Suspicion" from the album "My Own Best Enemy". I knew the song and the album, but I couldn't remember the name Richard Marx. Problem was instead of typing "My Own Best Enemy", I was typing "My Own WORST Enemy". Google had no clue. Shouldn't a good search engine be able to tell it's just one word wrong?

Re: A search engine built by the crowd

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Post by geraldbaeck »

DavidWanjiru wrote: post #49

How do you differentiate between useful dwell and useless dwell? I often need to spend some time on a page before I realize this is not what I'm looking for. How will you tell? And now that we're talking about search, I had an experience on google that I found very odd. I was looking for the Richard Marx song, "Suspicion" from the album "My Own Best Enemy". I knew the song and the album, but I couldn't remember the n…

Differentiating the quality of a dwell would be nice, but that would mean to track search trails of our users, which is too much of a privacy issue. But we are thinking about semantically evaluating the DwellRank. For example a useful dwell would be for tutorials. But this is just an assumption, we simply need more data about that.

Gerald (Disclosure: archify/Blippex CTO)

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