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Man charged in Durham hit-and-run that killed Seth Vidal

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Re: Man charged in Durham hit-and-run that killed Seth Vidal

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The NTSB wants to make forward collision avoidance systems in cars standard. I wonder if it would be possible to spoof radar and/or IR return signals so as to trip the autonomous braking in a car that gets too close to a bike?

Try thinking more than one step at a time. What will be the very next thing that happens if you actually succeed in doing this?

Cars would stop hitting bikes?

Re: Man charged in Durham hit-and-run that killed Seth Vidal

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The NTSB wants to make forward collision avoidance systems in cars standard. I wonder if it would be possible to spoof radar and/or IR return signals so as to trip the autonomous braking in a car that gets too close to a bike?

Perhaps something as simple as having a little video camera on bikes would discourage drivers from getting too close. If lots of cyclists had them drivers might start to move over a little more. Just knowing that you might be recorded could be enough incentive to a avoid cyclists.

I think there is a range of tools that would making biking safer. I saw a lighting system that outlined a "box" around the cyclist. Some kind of automatic horn/led-flasher that would activate if a car got too close might be of some value.

Re: Man charged in Durham hit-and-run that killed Seth Vidal

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The company Autoliv has a bunch of such products, they're used by major car manufacturers. See for instance http://www.autoliv.com/ProductsAndInnovations/ActiveSafetySy... which describes their "vision systems", the features of which include pedestrian-detection. It's possible that Volvo has its own in-house tech for this, but Autoliv are huge.

http://www.mobileye.com/markets/oem/oem-launches/volvo/volvo...

Ah, of course I should have mentioned that Autoliv are not by any means alone in the market. :) Thanks.

Re: Man charged in Durham hit-and-run that killed Seth Vidal

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This is utterly tragic. I lived near Hillandale rd in Durham and drove there almost every day. Not sure if it had any part in this accident, but the road is really poorly lit like most roads there. When I moved it actually struck me how poorly lit the roads in Durham were, compared to where we come from in Europe. I'm guessing it's a mixture of being much more expensive (wider roads and much longer) and the city orga…

This stretch of Hillandale is really lousy, as it narrows from a multilane interchange to a two-lane road in about a block. But it should be fairly well lit (at least around the interchange) and I imagine that Seth was as visible as possible.

But mediocre roads in Durham are the norm, unfortunately. My least favorite was always University heading South/Southwest through Forest Hills. In a hundred feet, your bike lane disappears and you are suddenly on a narrow two-lane with little shoulder, in a right-hand curve with an uphill elevation. There's precious little visibility in either direction thanks to the trees and curves, and the oncoming traffic (northbound) traffic has an awkward intersection that tends to cause people to creep into the middle of the lane. (I may be misremembering the exact details, but that intersection has really stuck with me.)

The drivers in the Triangle are also pretty awful. I've never been yelled more or had more things thrown at me. The cup of ice landing on you is not so bad (it can even be a little refreshing on a hot day) but the handful of change is pretty frightening.

Durham is a great town in many ways, but its bicycling infrastructure is not one of them. Such a shame that it claimed another life.

Re: Man charged in Durham hit-and-run that killed Seth Vidal

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> I never really knew how to drive safely before I had to drive knowing that any mistake I made might send me to jail. Huh? You drove after you knew you had a suspended license? You had to drive? If I understand what it means to not have a license, the thing to do in that situation is to have someone else drive your car to a long-term parking spot if it isn't in one already, and just leave it there until you have it…

At the risk of submitting myself to further judgment, and going far offtopic, yes, I did. I had gotten into an accident, wherein I was wrongly ticketed for hitting another car who had turned in front of me despite my right of way. I went to court and spoke my piece, and the judge overturned my ticket, leaving my only liable for court costs (I think it was $50). At the time, I was working a part time, $7 an hour night…

Thanks for telling this story and yes, I would have done the same.

Re: Man charged in Durham hit-and-run that killed Seth Vidal

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The NTSB wants to make forward collision avoidance systems in cars standard. I wonder if it would be possible to spoof radar and/or IR return signals so as to trip the autonomous braking in a car that gets too close to a bike?

Perhaps something as simple as having a little video camera on bikes would discourage drivers from getting too close. If lots of cyclists had them drivers might start to move over a little more. Just knowing that you might be recorded could be enough incentive to a avoid cyclists.

Perhaps cities should build bike lanes.

Re: Man charged in Durham hit-and-run that killed Seth Vidal

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This is utterly tragic. I lived near Hillandale rd in Durham and drove there almost every day. Not sure if it had any part in this accident, but the road is really poorly lit like most roads there. When I moved it actually struck me how poorly lit the roads in Durham were, compared to where we come from in Europe. I'm guessing it's a mixture of being much more expensive (wider roads and much longer) and the city orga…

Welcome to most of America. Really no sense of municipality, for the government is expected to strive to spend $0 lest they be accused of hoarding tax dollars.

Re: Man charged in Durham hit-and-run that killed Seth Vidal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps something as simple as having a little video camera on bikes would discourage drivers from getting too close. If lots of cyclists had them drivers might start to move over a little more. Just knowing that you might be recorded could be enough incentive to a avoid cyclists.

I thought about having a small flag on a really sharp antenna-style post sticking on the left side of the bike. About a foot or two, laying parallel to the ground should do. That would encourage drivers to give a bit more room, as they are probably more afraid of getting their car scratched up then they are of hitting someone.

That still does nothing about the distracted driver. They aren't going to see the flag if they're looking down at their phone laughing and writing a text.

Re: Man charged in Durham hit-and-run that killed Seth Vidal

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Yeah I'm a bit cynical about that too. Since he already has a revoked license (what a surprise: a bad driver, driving badly), he also already has an attorney. I suspect that's who decided he would be turning himself in.

Wow, there's an impressive chain of leaps to conclusions. You can have your license suspended for failing to answer a summons for a revenu^H^H^H^H^H^Hspeeding ticket. At no point is a lawyer necessarily involved.

Yeah that's possible. For everyone I know who has had his license revoked, the actual reason has been DWI. (I neither know nor particularly care what the relative averages are between DWI and "innocently" not paying speeding tickets. If you ask me DWI is every bit as much an overstated sin as speeding, only it's been inflated by the outrage industry rather than the police.) Involving a lawyer in those cases can be the difference between a 6-month suspension and a 5-year revocation. Not hiring an attorney would be an even more questionable decision than the original DWI.

Re: Man charged in Durham hit-and-run that killed Seth Vidal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I never really knew how to drive safely before I had to drive knowing that any mistake I made might send me to jail. Huh? You drove after you knew you had a suspended license? You had to drive? If I understand what it means to not have a license, the thing to do in that situation is to have someone else drive your car to a long-term parking spot if it isn't in one already, and just leave it there until you have it…

At the risk of submitting myself to further judgment, and going far offtopic, yes, I did. I had gotten into an accident, wherein I was wrongly ticketed for hitting another car who had turned in front of me despite my right of way. I went to court and spoke my piece, and the judge overturned my ticket, leaving my only liable for court costs (I think it was $50). At the time, I was working a part time, $7 an hour night…

Ah. It sounds a lot better to me now that I've heard more of the story. They really shouldn't have used their ability to cancel your license to collect that $50.
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