So when a Chinese dissident tries to escape to the USA, all the Chinese have to do is charge them with espionage and ask the USA extradite them.
What a crazy, dangerous game.
U.S. asks Hong Kong to extradite Snowden
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
"If Hong Kong doesn't act soon, it will complicate our bilateral relations and raise questions about Hong Kong's commitment to the rule of law," a senior Obama administration official told Reuters, speaking on condition of anonymity." This is totally disrespectful. I would call this extortion. Not good for bilateral relations.
"raise questions about Hong Kong's commitment to the rule of law" Hope the irony isn't lost on them.
They're on a roll. I thought charging him espionage was even better.
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#43Chances US would extradite a Chinese dissident talking about CCP methods of oppression? Zero
Chances Hong Kong will extradite Snowden? Very low I think.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because this plays on people's basic instinct to keep being fed meaningless, content-less pieces of the current "hot news". It's the bread and butter of modern media, and is not much different from what tabloid readers experience. It would be perfectly fine to discuss this issue around articles with actual content. It's very tiring to see every attention-seeking-hyperbolic-titled news article linked here.
You are overlooking the fact that posting "meaningless" news prompts the meaningful discussion around the issue that you claim you're perfectly fine with. I welcome these posts because they are frequently accompanied by a quality of discussion that is unique to the HN community.
This. Thousand times this! No other words needed really.
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#45"A senior administration official also not authorized to speak publicly told USA TODAY that the United States is asking Hong Kong to act quickly on the request or risk complicating relations between the two for failing to hand Snowden over as required by international law. " So it's OK for senior administration officials to leak information without authorization, about trying to prosecute someone for leaking informat…
Indeed, just like it's OK for top officials to leak about what a terrific success the drone program is and how it doesn't kill any civilians (NB: anyone killed by a drone is considered a "combatant" by definition in the official language[0])
[0] http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/world/obamas-leadership-in...
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#46Can we please stop this? If anyone wants to follow this story, she can go to cnn.com or news.google.com; let's please leave HN for interesting technical content. This is truly becoming tiring.
Did you see the HN front page when Aaron Swartz killed himself? The NSA stories are a drop in the ocean compared to the endless Aaron Swartz posts. It looked like this[0]. [0] http://i.imgur.com/QgJo6CU.png
I see non-Swartz posts. There were 2 non-NSA posts the day it blew up. I actually told myself "Ah, HN is obsessing with something today, looks like it's privacy this time".
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#47So when a Chinese dissident tries to escape to the USA, all the Chinese have to do is charge them with espionage and ask the USA extradite them. What a crazy, dangerous game.
That part isn't dangerous at all. The US would simply say no.
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#48Can we please stop this? If anyone wants to follow this story, she can go to cnn.com or news.google.com; let's please leave HN for interesting technical content. This is truly becoming tiring.
Oh yeah. Let's go back to blog posts complaining about how HN complained about some project or other having only the option to log in with facebook. Let's discuss flat design some more, maybe we can get closure on that . Seriously though.. I thought I was getting annoyed by the NSA things as well, but then it let up a little, I remembered what HN is usually like, and now I'm happy it's back. As long as it at least dr…
I would be content if we could just have something happen and get one good, well-written story about it on the front page.
Right now on the front page of HN seven different articles -- that's 23% of all stories on the front page -- are "Edward Snowden has left Hong Kong".
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did you see the HN front page when Aaron Swartz killed himself? The NSA stories are a drop in the ocean compared to the endless Aaron Swartz posts. It looked like this[0]. [0] http://i.imgur.com/QgJo6CU.png
I see non-Swartz posts. There were 2 non-NSA posts the day it blew up. I actually told myself "Ah, HN is obsessing with something today, looks like it's privacy this time".
Only 28 and 29 didn't have to do with Aaron. I missed HN the day the news broke. Perhaps it was just as bad. Either way, I disagree that we should stop taking about it. Silencing something is not a good way to address it.