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Re: What is Happening in Brazil

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Post by paulovsk »

angersock wrote: post #10
Uperte wrote: post #3

Quote from prosecutor's FB according to this blog post: “I’m trying to get home for the past two hours, but I can’t because there’s some protesters blocking off traffic […] please, somebody tell the police that this area is under the jurisdiction of my court and, if any of them kill a protester, I’ll just archive the case”. Scary!

Yep. I understand this as a humorous remark, no doubt, but there are certain positions of power from which I do not appreciate joking.

>"there are certain positions of power from which I do not appreciate joking."

Exactly how I feel.

And no way it was a joke, since he used bad words in the original post I haven't translated, which indicates he was really pissed off and writing fluently.

Re: What is Happening in Brazil

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Post by paulovsk »

jonmc12 wrote: post #21

This article left me thinking about how big of a mess the 2014 world cup could be - a whirlwind of political protest, drunken fans and violence. Brazilian leadership really has their work cut out of them. However, in China, where oppression and corruption also exist, the 2008 Olympics was an event of unifying nationalism. Then, as the article portrays, Arab countries can oust their leaders, but Brazilians choose to r…

The most intelligent question ever raised that I saw. It left me thinking too, thank you.

Re: What is Happening in Brazil

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Post by wslh »

Fargren wrote: post #26
mtgx wrote: post #14

Politicians tend to become worse and worse thinking and seeing from experience that they can "get away with it". But in reality all this time, the population gets more and more frustrated, and it's only a matter of time before the population revolts. So far the Brazilian politicians have been lucky that all these 1 million people haven't become violent and ask for their blood. Because to be honest, I think at least s…

But the any constitution may have(read, HAS) things that are wrong. Constitutions were written by people too. People are fallible, and the possibility exists that going against what they wrote ten-score years ago is just plain wrong, and going against it is the correct thing to do. I don't think leaders should fear correcting the wrongs in the building blocks of their countries; it should be their utmost responsibili…

The responsibility of politicians is towards the people, not towards the constitution.

Do you mean to the current people? and/or the future generations? and/or the past ones?

Re: What is Happening in Brazil

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Post by Fargren »

wslh wrote: post #43
Fargren wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But the any constitution may have(read, HAS) things that are wrong. Constitutions were written by people too. People are fallible, and the possibility exists that going against what they wrote ten-score years ago is just plain wrong, and going against it is the correct thing to do. I don't think leaders should fear correcting the wrongs in the building blocks of their countries; it should be their utmost responsibili…

The responsibility of politicians is towards the people, not towards the constitution. Do you mean to the current people? and/or the future generations? and/or the past ones?

The current people, and the future generations inasmuch as their well-being is relevant and important to the current ones.

Re: What is Happening in Brazil

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Post by wslh »

Fargren wrote: post #44
wslh wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The responsibility of politicians is towards the people, not towards the constitution. Do you mean to the current people? and/or the future generations? and/or the past ones?

The current people, and the future generations inasmuch as their well-being is relevant and important to the current ones.

For example, what do you think about the current constitutional issues in Argentina? do you agree with the supreme court ruling?

Re: What is Happening in Brazil

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Post by joseflavio »

weslly wrote: post #13
joseflavio wrote: post #9

Sorry, but I call bs on this blog: "Feel Free To Kill Protesters", who said this? The author doesn't point any reference to confirm this quote, and I could not find it nowhere else.

- http://noticias.uol.com.br/cotidiano/ultimas-noticias/2013/0... - http://g1.globo.com/sao-paulo/noticia/2013/06/apos-sugerir-m... EDIT: You can see this in english here: http://frombrazil.blogfolha.uol.com.br/2013/06/14/fear-and-l... (search for "prosecutor")

Unbelievable the downvote, it doesn't change the fact that Blog post has absolutely no references or names.

Re: What is Happening in Brazil

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Post by Fargren »

wslh wrote: post #45
Fargren wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The current people, and the future generations inasmuch as their well-being is relevant and important to the current ones.

For example, what do you think about the current constitutional issues in Argentina? do you agree with the supreme court ruling?

Are we talking about the judicial system reform? I believe the current system of choosing the magistrate is quite bad, but the alternative that's being suggested is rife with it's own problems. As such, I don't think it's worth changing the constitution. I really like the current composition of the Supreme Court, and I trust their decision. I do think there are ways to change the system for the best, and I hope there'll be a joint effort to come up with a better alternative to the current system.
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