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Steve Jobs Ponders His Legacy In Never-Before-Seen 1994 Video

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Re: Steve Jobs Ponders His Legacy In Never-Before-Seen 1994 Video

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This is old. You can pick up the full video here - http://www.siliconvalleyhistorical.org/#!steve-jobs-film/c1x... I did a couple years back. It's like $5 & well worth it

No shit. A 1994 video that's old.

I was referring to the fact that this was posted multiple times around HN after Steve Jobs passed away. It's definitely not "never before seen footage" of SJ.

Re: Steve Jobs Ponders His Legacy In Never-Before-Seen 1994 Video

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Steve Jobs might not be right about this. Apple's latest and greatest operating systems still implement quite a bit of functionality from Unix, which is much more than 10 years old. They still implement and use ASCII, JPG, TCP/IP, etc. Most mathematical papers, paintings, and churches don't inspire awe 200 years later. The vast majority are lost to time. Only the most original, revolutionary, or useful cultural artif…

Then why do millions of people flock to the Mona Lisa or Shakespeare? I do see TCP/IP as an art form, but it's not one that ever gets examined. It gets used. There's a bit of a difference in my opinion.

Well he mentioned the Principia too...I bet most people who use calculus have never read that.

Re: Steve Jobs Ponders His Legacy In Never-Before-Seen 1994 Video

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post #40

Steve Jobs might not be right about this. Apple's latest and greatest operating systems still implement quite a bit of functionality from Unix, which is much more than 10 years old. They still implement and use ASCII, JPG, TCP/IP, etc. Most mathematical papers, paintings, and churches don't inspire awe 200 years later. The vast majority are lost to time. Only the most original, revolutionary, or useful cultural artif…

You're absolutely right. Steve Jobs was not right on this. To quote him: >This is a field where one does one's work and in 10 years it's obsolete and really will not be usable in 10 to 20 years. There are many, many examples of technologies that have been around several decades and will be around for several more. I also disagree with: >You can't go back and use an Apple I...You won't be able to even fire it up and s…

You may be one of the geologists he is referring to :)

Re: Steve Jobs Ponders His Legacy In Never-Before-Seen 1994 Video

#45
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this can be said of basically any old interview of any celebrity.

Yeah, but the title contains "Never Before Seen."

So the title is pretty obviously wrong. But calling the video old was pretty redundant IMO. Can't quite understand the modbombing but hey.

Re: Steve Jobs Ponders His Legacy In Never-Before-Seen 1994 Video

#46

Steve Jobs had such a way with words. I personally love this quote: "This is not a field where one paints a painting which will be looked at for centuries...This is a field where one does his work and in ten years it is obsolete." I loved the metaphor: "It's sort of like a sentiment of rocks. You're building up a mountain and you get to contribute your little layer of sedimentary rock to make the mountain that much h…

Thanks for hell-banning my previous nick !

I promise not to commit a thought crime, like speaking ill of stevey.

Can I lick your eye balls to show my appreciation, for your integrity ?

I wonder if HN-Nomencletura tries, to re-write other people's comments and submissions with their God given admin powers !

HN \m/

Re: Steve Jobs Ponders His Legacy In Never-Before-Seen 1994 Video

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Steve Jobs might not be right about this. Apple's latest and greatest operating systems still implement quite a bit of functionality from Unix, which is much more than 10 years old. They still implement and use ASCII, JPG, TCP/IP, etc. Most mathematical papers, paintings, and churches don't inspire awe 200 years later. The vast majority are lost to time. Only the most original, revolutionary, or useful cultural artif…

In a way, his work supports the work of UNIX and Ritchie. He states that tech work on a large scale is often like setting pavement. UNIX APIs are a progression of that. The fact that many can use a computer without understanding the underpinnings of an OS is a testament to Jobs.

Why is it a testament to Jobs? I doubt he wrote even a single line of code any of Apples OSs. Did he design the UIs or did he hire someone and then just approve what THEY worked on and designed?

I hate how people talk about Apple and give Jobs all of the credit for what Apple produced. What about all of the talented engineers, designers, etc. who actually did the work? Sure he had final approval and his design taste and whatnot were important factors, but he would have had nothing to approve or chose from if all of the brilliant employees didn't produce the work.

Re: Steve Jobs Ponders His Legacy In Never-Before-Seen 1994 Video

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post #8

Interesting that he was able to maintain such passion for his work while having such a realistic view of the ephemerality of it.

I think the massive piles of money coming in may have been a contributing factor...

or even better - glory.

Re: Steve Jobs Ponders His Legacy In Never-Before-Seen 1994 Video

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a way, his work supports the work of UNIX and Ritchie. He states that tech work on a large scale is often like setting pavement. UNIX APIs are a progression of that. The fact that many can use a computer without understanding the underpinnings of an OS is a testament to Jobs.

Why is it a testament to Jobs? I doubt he wrote even a single line of code any of Apples OSs. Did he design the UIs or did he hire someone and then just approve what THEY worked on and designed? I hate how people talk about Apple and give Jobs all of the credit for what Apple produced. What about all of the talented engineers, designers, etc. who actually did the work? Sure he had final approval and his design taste…

Yeah - every tech company with talented employees produces results that are just as good. Management and CEO talent is irrelevant, as we can all see. Jobs deserves only contempt.

Re: Steve Jobs Ponders His Legacy In Never-Before-Seen 1994 Video

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Steve Jobs had such a way with words. I personally love this quote: "This is not a field where one paints a painting which will be looked at for centuries...This is a field where one does his work and in ten years it is obsolete." I loved the metaphor: "It's sort of like a sentiment of rocks. You're building up a mountain and you get to contribute your little layer of sedimentary rock to make the mountain that much h…

> "It's sort of like a sentiment of rocks. You meant 'sediment of rocks'? > Steve Jobs had such a way with words. Oh absolutely. There are so many classy lines from him. And some of these lines are going to impact our industry for years to come. Take for example: The 'Post-PC era'? Damn just those three words. They paint an altogether new story that is going to be written all over again! It gives an excitement and pu…

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