My NSA Records - Submit a FOIA Request or Motion to Quash

Post by tsaoutourpants » Fri, Jun 14, 2013, 7:30 PM UTC

tsaoutourpants wrote: post #32

just2n wrote: post #21

The secrecy of the information FOIA is supposed to help alleviate (it doesn't really because it's a catch-22) bothers me a lot. If the government is amassing information on individuals to prove guilt of some crime, by withholding that information from counsel, it's very possible that evidence that proves the individual is completely innocent may be destroyed inadvertently since the individual has no idea what they mi…

There are tons of problems with the NSA having this data, and I think they are just beginning to learn that. There's a news headline out there now that a bank robbery suspect has now requested his NSA records to prove he wasn't there. The shit is about to hit the fan (or "additional shit" I should say!) Of course, you could always keep a copy of every phone bill you receive if you want permanent proof of what you wer…

Post by tsaoutourpants » Fri, Jun 14, 2013, 7:35 PM UTC

JDGM wrote: post #36

tsaoutourpants wrote: post #28

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Thanks for sharing it! If you have any ideas for how to make it seem less sketchy while still conveying that we're going to send a free request for you, let me know!

Needless to say, it's a little unfair of me to so casually and easily remark "the page out of context seems faintly scam-like" without pinpointing exactly why , and offering "ideas for how to make it seem less sketchy". This kind of thing is also very subjective, anyway! However, in my opinion, it might be an improvement to drop the caps on "FREE" and perhaps the exclamation marks on the two quoted sentences too. The…

Post by tsaoutourpants » Fri, Jun 14, 2013, 7:44 PM UTC

Shivetya wrote: post #43

tsaoutourpants wrote: post #42

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@chris_mahan - Not exactly. In a criminal trial, it's the government that needs to prove things, and all you need to do is cast doubt. A showing that your phone was, for example, being used to call your mom at the same time that someone was getting smashed with a sledge hammer might be sufficient to give a jury reasonable doubt. You can call your mom to testify to authenticate the records, too.

so that is why prosecutors ramp up the charges and offer you a plea. By the time it rolls to trial those phone records won't be available to bolster you case. Casting doubt is one thing, prosecutors seem intent they never get in front of a jury and if they do they will do their best to suppress any evidence in your favor.

Post by kgo » Fri, Jun 14, 2013, 7:50 PM UTC

DuskStar wrote: post #2

Doesn't a FOIA request have fees associated with it? Will the government just bill you for it when they provide documents?

Post by grey-area » Fri, Jun 14, 2013, 8:17 PM UTC

tsaoutourpants wrote: post #29

stfu wrote: post #23

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