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U.S. National Security Agencies Said to Swap Data With Thousands of Firms

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I tried to submit this hours ago but nobody upvoted: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Core "As of 2008 there were reportedly eight million Americans listed in the database as possible threats, often for trivial reasons, whom the government may choose to track, question, or detain in a time of crisis." We are more than half way in the road to serfdom and tyranny. EDIT: Resubmitted now as "http" - https://news.ycombi…

2.5% of the entire US population. Jesus christ...

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Holy shit. Microsoft Corp. (MSFT), the world’s largest software company, provides intelligence agencies with information about bugs in its popular software before it publicly releases a fix, according to two people familiar with the process. That information can be used to protect government computers and to access the computers of terrorists or military foes. Microsoft gives US military hackers and the NSA zero days…

Playing devil's advocate, keep in mind that domestic computer security is part of the NSA's charter. Remember the rainbow books?

It would be completely legitimate for MSFT to warn NSA about vulnerabilities in the most common desktop operating systems in the USA if the warning were intended to aid in preventing a larger attack.

It's a write-only bugtraq. :-)

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Holy shit. Microsoft Corp. (MSFT), the world’s largest software company, provides intelligence agencies with information about bugs in its popular software before it publicly releases a fix, according to two people familiar with the process. That information can be used to protect government computers and to access the computers of terrorists or military foes. Microsoft gives US military hackers and the NSA zero days…

You know what surprisingly I am not that outraged by it. Why? Because I was expecting far worse. Installing backdoor for the govt and purposefully leaving an exploit open.. etc. So the govt get a head start with the vulnerabilities that Microsoft knows? Okay.. I am guessing there are far more undisclosed ones in the black market that they can buy off.

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Wait, can someone explain to me what's so bad about this? I'm a security company and I go from company to company, trying to patch up holes in their systems. I'm basically a network plumber/exterminator. Sounds like the NSA is just telling me what the bugs and leaky pipes look like so I can fix them in companies around the world.

What's so bad about that?

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I tried to submit this hours ago but nobody upvoted: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Core "As of 2008 there were reportedly eight million Americans listed in the database as possible threats, often for trivial reasons, whom the government may choose to track, question, or detain in a time of crisis." We are more than half way in the road to serfdom and tyranny. EDIT: Resubmitted now as "http" - https://news.ycombi…

2.5% of the entire US population. Jesus christ...

I'll be sorely disappointed in myself if I'm not on the list.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

the information is not released publicly. You need to be their partner.

provides intelligence agencies with information about bugs in its popular software before it *publicly* releases a fix emphasis mine.

offcourse, bug fixes will be released publicly. No doubt. The prior information of these bugs is what is not released publicly.

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> While companies are offered powerful inducements to cooperate with U.S. intelligence, many executives are motivated by patriotism or a sense they are defending national security, the people familiar with the trusted partner programs said. Their fervent patriotism certainly didn't stop them from demanding immunity as a prerequisite.

Patriotism. Yeah, sure.

This article runs terribly short on the other half of the question: what did companies really get in exchange?

Call me a cynic, but I can't believe it was just the fuzzy warm feeling of being a patriot.

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