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Re: Wuala: Secure Cloud Storage

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Post by marquis »

maggit wrote: post #9

I recently tried replacing Dropbox with Wuala because of privacy concerns. I failed, and in the process realized how successful Dropbox has been in creating an awesome user experience! I'm still looking for a locally encrypted Dropbox-alternative. So if any of you are making one, please speak up :) (Edit) I should specify that it was the user experience that made me give up on Wuala, and any proper Dropbox alternativ…

We were looking at using AeroFS with our own servers, but it doesn't appear to support encryption on the server. I may be wrong about this?

Re: Wuala: Secure Cloud Storage

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Post by amouat »

sabret00the wrote: post #33

It's from Lacie, so no thank you. I bought a Lacie drive and proceeded to copy all my stuff onto it. Before I could get comfortable with it (so within the first six months of purchase) and before I backed up my stuff, the drive failed. I contacted Lacie about it and they proceeded to try and sell me a service whereby they'd recover my data for €300. That would've brought my total spend on the drive up to around £400.…

Well, they should have replaced the drive if it failed within 6 months. But expecting them to go to the lengths of recovering your data for free is a bit hopeful.

Re: Wuala: Secure Cloud Storage

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Post by Keyframe »

Company may be in Europe, servers might be in Europe, you might be in Europe. Nothing guarantees you that your data won't be routed through US where it can be tapped into. That's the primary issue for me with the whole PRISM scandal.

Re: Wuala: Secure Cloud Storage

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Post by simgidacav »

venomsnake wrote: post #28
davidjgraph wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A back-door in where, exactly?

The closed source binary blob?

Exactly, this is the point. If privacy is important for you, closed source software is not trustworthy, unless it's placed downline of encryption.

Re: Wuala: Secure Cloud Storage

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Post by ff10 »

Toshio wrote: post #35
lazyjones wrote: post #29

Wuala is great, but the short summary is a bit misleading. There is a real risk of government agencies forcing LaCie to push you a client update that removes encryption, in an older version of their T&C / product info, this was mentioned explicitly.

I also don't buy the whole premise of US government - bad, EU governments - good. When push comes to shove, governments everywhere will have no qualms about invading people's privacies en masse. Human nature is the same everywhere. Power corrupts everywhere.

Switzerland is a non-EU country. Switzerland has a long tradition of civil liberties, rights and participation. This results in regular legally binding referendums on the one side and tax evasions from civilians of other countries on the other.

Re: Wuala: Secure Cloud Storage

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Post by noinsight »

quchen wrote: post #2

Sounds cool! I've been looking for a trustable Dropbox alternative so I don't have to manually encrypt the contents all the time. I'll download and try it out real q- > Make sure Java [...] is installed. :C

I'm surprised that there isn't a "cloud encryption" software available yet. It shouldn't be a complex project to encrypt & rename -> upload // download -> decrypt & rename. You could store the original file names in the cloud in an encrypted sqlite database or something.

Re: Wuala: Secure Cloud Storage

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Post by tekacs »

sabret00the wrote: post #33

It's from Lacie, so no thank you. I bought a Lacie drive and proceeded to copy all my stuff onto it. Before I could get comfortable with it (so within the first six months of purchase) and before I backed up my stuff, the drive failed. I contacted Lacie about it and they proceeded to try and sell me a service whereby they'd recover my data for €300. That would've brought my total spend on the drive up to around £400.…

It's very pointedly not their obligation (nor even standard practice for any drive company) to go through the expensive process of recovering your data for you for free. Taking backups is your own problem and responsibility.

They should have offered to replace your drive, but no more. Hardly unscrupulousness.

Re: Wuala: Secure Cloud Storage

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Post by [deleted] »

Toshio wrote: post #35
lazyjones wrote: post #29

Wuala is great, but the short summary is a bit misleading. There is a real risk of government agencies forcing LaCie to push you a client update that removes encryption, in an older version of their T&C / product info, this was mentioned explicitly.

I also don't buy the whole premise of US government - bad, EU governments - good. When push comes to shove, governments everywhere will have no qualms about invading people's privacies en masse. Human nature is the same everywhere. Power corrupts everywhere.

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Re: Wuala: Secure Cloud Storage

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Post by joosters »

josephagoss wrote: post #5

It requires Java?

Yes, just installed and then immediately uninstalled after I got the 'install java' prompt :(

It's not Wuala's fault, but forcing me to put java back on my desktop is a big hurdle. It's going to take an absolutely amazing piece of software to make me deal with that horrendous bug-ridden security hole again.

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