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Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

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Post by 300bps »

weareconvo wrote: post #11
300bps wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The things I care about seem to be the opposite of the things you care about. For instance, I'm ditching my third and last iPhone today for the Lumia 928 Windows Phone 8.

You are most definitely the only one. And judging from your comment history, you also like Windows 8, so rest assured that your opinions are far, far outside the mainstream.

weareconvo said:

>You are most definitely the only one. And judging from your comment history, you also like Windows 8, so rest assured that your opinions are far, far outside the mainstream

As an opportunity for introspection, please reconsider your life choices about spending your time trolling on HN. I'm assuming your dismissal of my opinion because I "like Windows 8" is from this comment which you apparently found on the third page of my comment history:

>Basically, after an hour or two of using Windows 8 I became used to the new interface. The only other thing that's important to do is replace the crappy Metro versions of applications with standard Windows versions.

So my description of Windows 8 as "the crappy Metro versions of applications" makes me a shill for Microsoft I guess. Wow, with friends like me Microsoft certainly doesn't need enemies like you.

Unfortunately for you since you appear to loathe Microsoft, my opinions are typically early for "the mainstream" as you say. I was the first of my friends to get an iPhone and was responsible for at least 60 other people purchasing an iPhone. Now people who respect my technical opinion will be following me to Windows Phone 8 or Android. Both platforms have surpassed anything that Apple has to offer.

Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

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Post by tzs »

Toshio wrote: post #20

Oh. My. F*. God. Just look at the comment section below the article. It's chockfull of microsoft's PR drones and MVPs saying all kinds of nasty things about Google and Apple and not really disclosing their affiliations with microsoft.

> It's chockfull of microsoft's PR drones and MVPs saying all kinds of nasty things about Google and Apple and not really disclosing their affiliations with microsoft.

How do you know this?

Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

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Post by Toshio »

tzs wrote: post #42
Toshio wrote: post #20

Oh. My. F*. God. Just look at the comment section below the article. It's chockfull of microsoft's PR drones and MVPs saying all kinds of nasty things about Google and Apple and not really disclosing their affiliations with microsoft.

> It's chockfull of microsoft's PR drones and MVPs saying all kinds of nasty things about Google and Apple and not really disclosing their affiliations with microsoft. How do you know this?

I've been in the software industry for 28 years. I was there when microsoft invented their particular flavor of aggressive marketing. Search keywords "Evangelism is war" in case you're not familiar with how it works.

Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

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Post by dreen »

CloudNine wrote: post #39
dreen wrote: post #34

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None of those stories say anything about scroogled either. My point is this particular article makes a premise and then completely fails to follow up on it. Its really poor writing.

Okay let me explain it. Microsoft wanted to point out that Gmail scans the contents of email while Outlook.com doesn't in the Scroogled campaign. And now Google is trying legal tactics with a C&D to takedown to prevent Windows Phone users from getting a very popular smartphone app, YouTube, so they're smearing themselves here and helping the scroogled compaign paint them as evil.

Lol. Removing an app for violating the terms still has nothing to do with reading your emails. The only connection is that both have a some PR effect, but everything those companies do has it.

Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

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Post by weareconvo »

CloudNine wrote: post #37
weareconvo wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ironically, the subtle implication of THIS comment - that my responses are less valuable because I am, in general, a negative person - IS drifting towards ad hominem.

Too bad you got caught trying to delete your troll post here. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5717922

Now you're not only attacking my character, but you're attempting to label me for the sole purpose of dismissing my arguments.

This is so ad hominem it's almost cycling around the universe and landing back on "polite".

Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

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Post by weareconvo »

CloudNine wrote: post #23
[deleted] wrote: post #21

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I like how the Google fans and Microsoft haters on this story so far are commenting about the commenters instead of commenting on the story about Google using its influence to block a popular smartphone app from Windows Phone. Great job guys,you should apply at Google PR if you already don't work there or own their stock. Edit: Ninja delete but I caught it in time! Here's the post before he/she deleted it: weareconvo…

Yeah, I mistook your username for another one. That's why I deleted it.

Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

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Post by weareconvo »

CloudNine wrote: post #30
Toshio wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OK, reposting my other comment here because the FUD is getting ridiculous. Here goes: It is a common misconception that if you have a very low opinion of microsoft you are automatically either a rabid Google fanboi or a rabid Apple fanboi. Myself, I don't hold either Google or Apple in especially high esteem. You have to understand, however, that the generalized hatred of microsoft is nothing more, nothing less than…

Okay, I was confused because people don't seem to be condemning Google for their evil lockout tactics here and are instead commenting on commenters. Criticizing Google for being evil does not mean they're supporting Microsoft here or that they're MVPs or PR drones.

BTW, I did work at Google for over 5 years as an FT SWE, so if that helps the effort to discredit me, by all means.

Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

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Post by [deleted] »

CloudNine wrote: post #30
Toshio wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OK, reposting my other comment here because the FUD is getting ridiculous. Here goes: It is a common misconception that if you have a very low opinion of microsoft you are automatically either a rabid Google fanboi or a rabid Apple fanboi. Myself, I don't hold either Google or Apple in especially high esteem. You have to understand, however, that the generalized hatred of microsoft is nothing more, nothing less than…

Okay, I was confused because people don't seem to be condemning Google for their evil lockout tactics here and are instead commenting on commenters. Criticizing Google for being evil does not mean they're supporting Microsoft here or that they're MVPs or PR drones.

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Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

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Post by DanBC »

CloudNine wrote: post #31
DanBC wrote: post #25

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I flag subs like these because the comment threads are fucking awful.

What kind of subs exactly? The ones critical of Google? How about just skipping the story/comments and moving to the next instead of trying to bury real news for everyone by flagging? From the HN guidelines: If you think something is spam or offtopic, flag it by going to its page and clicking on the "flag" link. (Not all users will see this; there is a karma threshold.) You're basically abusing your mod privieleges.

> The ones critical of Google?

Your reply, which totally misses the point, is an elegant demonstration of just how fucking awful these threads are and exactly why they need to be buried.

There's no real news here. There's nothing deeply interesting. And the comments are just full of people who have deeply held polarised opinions bickering with each other.

The fact that you think I chose to bury something because it's critical of Google (I say plenty of anti-Google stuff) shows that you are over-sensitive and incapable of rational discussion. That's why threads like these are fucking terrible.

> You're basically abusing your mod privieleges.

No. This is a shitty thread. I'm proud I flagged it. I'd flag it again if I could.

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