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My former employer Opera Software has filed a lawsuit against me

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Re: My former employer Opera Software has filed a lawsuit against me

#41
So let me get this straight, Opera is suing you because they think you gave away secrets. It appears they have no hard evidence, no emails, no phone conversations, just someone talking about ideas. I would personally laugh at them and think about all of the money I would get when they lose.

Also Opera needs your millions so that they can continue to support a piece of software that no one uses. (Chrome FTW!)

Re: My former employer Opera Software has filed a lawsuit against me

#42

I wish I knew someone who used Opera so I could ask them to start boycotting it.

Hey Chris, good to know for any consulting companies (like the OP's) that okcupid/IAC might want to hire! It's nice that you're not so concerned about trade secrets!

  > Hey Chris, good to know for any consulting companies
  > (like the OP's) that okcupid/IAC might want to hire!
  > It's nice that you're not so concerned about trade secrets!
Snideness is unbecoming.

A more straightforward way to write your comment would be "Since you believe that the OP did not divulge trade secrets and are opposed to apparently frivolous legal action, you must not care about protecting your own trade secrets."

The problems with this position should be obvious.

Re: My former employer Opera Software has filed a lawsuit against me

#43

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Hey Chris, good to know for any consulting companies (like the OP's) that okcupid/IAC might want to hire! It's nice that you're not so concerned about trade secrets!

I can assure you I'd never sue someone for stealing trade secrets. Whatever "trade secrets" means in software, anyway.

How about a contractor selling the okc source code tree to some Chinese "entrepreneur" who launches a copycat site in China that somehow gains 300M members within a year?

Just one extreme to make your statement look silly.

Re: My former employer Opera Software has filed a lawsuit against me

#44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey Chris, good to know for any consulting companies (like the OP's) that okcupid/IAC might want to hire! It's nice that you're not so concerned about trade secrets!

> Hey Chris, good to know for any consulting companies > (like the OP's) that okcupid/IAC might want to hire! > It's nice that you're not so concerned about trade secrets! Snideness is unbecoming. A more straightforward way to write your comment would be "Since you believe that the OP did not divulge trade secrets and are opposed to apparently frivolous legal action, you must not care about protecting your own trade…

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Re: My former employer Opera Software has filed a lawsuit against me

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can assure you I'd never sue someone for stealing trade secrets. Whatever "trade secrets" means in software, anyway.

How about a contractor selling the okc source code tree to some Chinese "entrepreneur" who launches a copycat site in China that somehow gains 300M members within a year? Just one extreme to make your statement look silly.

I'm pretty sure that's covered under copyright. The company owns the code.

A trade secret is... what?

Re: My former employer Opera Software has filed a lawsuit against me

#46
pretty sad to here this from opera. i've been an avid opera user for the last 10 years. i haven't seen as much innovation in any other browser like ive seen in opera. from mouse gestures to tab grouping to the closed tabs list to a million other features that were first in opera and slowly migrated to all the other browsers. sure websites sometimes didn't render properly and no one ever cared to properly support it, but still they were always on the cutting edge feature wise.

although this doesn't change my stance on using opera, i hope this results in a ousting of the current ceo.

Re: My former employer Opera Software has filed a lawsuit against me

#47

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Really? This is quite news to me; I don't think many people are still stuck with feature phones on China Mobile, at least in the big cities.

IIRC the low-end smartphones made by ZTE/Huawei are quite popular.

Yes, but are they running opera mobile? My understanding was that it lost popularity when the government stopped allowing people to use it to jump the GFW.

Re: My former employer Opera Software has filed a lawsuit against me

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey Chris, good to know for any consulting companies (like the OP's) that okcupid/IAC might want to hire! It's nice that you're not so concerned about trade secrets!

> Hey Chris, good to know for any consulting companies > (like the OP's) that okcupid/IAC might want to hire! > It's nice that you're not so concerned about trade secrets! Snideness is unbecoming. A more straightforward way to write your comment would be "Since you believe that the OP did not divulge trade secrets and are opposed to apparently frivolous legal action, you must not care about protecting your own trade…

Thanks! Actually, I'm happy to address this comment now that it got your positive rephrasing. But first I should add I no longer work at OkCupid, and even if I did, the company is far bigger than one person's opinion. What I'm stating on HN is my personal opinion, not OkC's.

Ok, I personally find this kind of lawsuit deplorable for 2 reasons:

(1) The world is better when people share ideas and don't try to claim ownership over them. If, while I worked at OkCupid, someone left my company and used "secrets" we held to start or improve a competitor, I would believe it was their right. And that I had failed to nurture their creativity or compensate them well enough.

(2) This is an individual being assaulted at a corporate magnitude.

Re: My former employer Opera Software has filed a lawsuit against me

#49

I hope he has checked this with a lawyer and that he is not giving his adversary ammunition. Good luck.

This sounds like it was written by a lawyer, or at least run by one.

Wouldn't it be uncommon for a lawyer to allow him to say anything at all? As far as the lawyer's job is concerned, letting the client talk can never help, it can only hurt. I know this is the case for criminal cases, but I'm not sure if it applies to civil cases.

Re: My former employer Opera Software has filed a lawsuit against me

#50

I wish I knew someone who used Opera so I could ask them to start boycotting it.

Right, because justice tends to be a one-sided story. Let's be clear that all you are basing your opinion on is an abridged, single viewpoint account of events.

There is such a rush to bless this guys post and chastise opera in these comments it is astounding. I don't understand the complete disregard for a balanced consideration of the facts.

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