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Re: Pirates playing a game dev simulator complain about piracy

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Post by supercoder »

onli wrote: post #14

The irony is great. But I fear it is possible that wasn't such a good idea. Given the graphs, there were 4k people interested in the game. Over 90% of them now have the impression that the game is unplayable long-term because of the message-box. Maybe many of them get the hint, but those who don't might generate bad pr and prevent others from buying it. But well, maybe that article combined with answers to the compla…

Yeah the idea is pretty funny, is great to see people complaining about piracy heh.

But I do wonder if they were a little too subtle with the in game message. Agree some of those people just appeared to assume the game was broken, and probably struggled to make the link (while as obvious as it might appear).

Re: Pirates playing a game dev simulator complain about piracy

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Post by johncagula »

jarofgreen wrote: post #38
johncagula wrote: post #12

http://www.kopimi.com/kopimi/

What's the distinction between this and Creative Commons, or other such licenses?

this is not so much a license as it is an imperative. proliferation of data without boundary...

'other such licenses' have structure about them that limit what can be done with them

Re: Pirates playing a game dev simulator complain about piracy

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Post by lelandbatey »

eropple wrote: post #23
algorias wrote: post #15

While I think this is a very clever idea, it's also somewhat dishonest. In the game world, pirates cause studios to go bankrupt. In the real world, the causal link is not as clear. People arguing that piracy is ruining gamedev routinely ignore the fact that those who pirate don't necessarily have the means to buy many games; their choice is purely between pirating and not playing. Of those 90% or more who pirate the…

> People arguing that piracy is ruining gamedev routinely ignore the fact that those who pirate don't necessarily have the means to buy many games And people who defend pirates routinely ignore that pirated products are also pirated by people who will take what they want for free if they can, because they can. Don't pretend to a higher level of intellectual honesty or moral strength. Your position can lay claim to ne…

It's not really a claim of moral honesty as it is just one bit of factual data. A large majority of pirates won't buy the game. Ever. If they can't get a pirated copy, then they just won't play, but it's not as if they'll buy it instead. It's a sad but true fact.

I only bring this up because there's often an underlying assumption that every pirate is a lost sale, when in reality there maybe 1% of pirates that would have otherwise bought the game. I'm in no way trying to say pirating has any moral leg to stand on.

Re: Pirates playing a game dev simulator complain about piracy

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Post by smosher »

eropple wrote: post #23
algorias wrote: post #15

While I think this is a very clever idea, it's also somewhat dishonest. In the game world, pirates cause studios to go bankrupt. In the real world, the causal link is not as clear. People arguing that piracy is ruining gamedev routinely ignore the fact that those who pirate don't necessarily have the means to buy many games; their choice is purely between pirating and not playing. Of those 90% or more who pirate the…

> People arguing that piracy is ruining gamedev routinely ignore the fact that those who pirate don't necessarily have the means to buy many games And people who defend pirates routinely ignore that pirated products are also pirated by people who will take what they want for free if they can, because they can. Don't pretend to a higher level of intellectual honesty or moral strength. Your position can lay claim to ne…

You know, GP acknowledges those people and makes a good point about it at the same time. You're just being argumentative.

Re: Pirates playing a game dev simulator complain about piracy

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Post by logicallee »

update2, someone replied with a screenshot but non-working link to the comment. attempting to verify. so far could not verify links directly. will attempt to update if I am still within this comment's edit window, otherwise see responses below for the current status.

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it also makes it seem likely to me that the screenshots of users posting on forums were fabricated. they seem a little too good (too ironic, too much like south park) to be true.

Googling seems to confirm:

http://i.imgur.com/TfxzkrA.jpg

This is a total hoax! :)

Those posts simply don't exist. (As of 11:39 CET on 4/29/2013.)

still, south park worthy, I laughed very hard.

OP, write satire: not hoax. good luck. --

Original comment:

just out of curiosity, I wonder why "A minute after we uploaded it, my torrent client looked like this:" shows a screenshot with 3 torrents that were "Added a day ago" and "Added 18 hours ago".

it sure looks like this is a slight exaggeration :)

Re: Pirates playing a game dev simulator complain about piracy

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Post by claudius »

supercoder wrote: post #34
claudius wrote: post #8

I haven’t bought any game released after 2004[0] – simply because in my opinion, gameplay has suffered a lot lately. I can recall spending years building stuff in Pharao when I was a kid and recently had a lot of fun (months!) playing Patrician II/III, bought from GOG. Where are these games nowadays? [0] The latest game I bought on Steam was Counter Strike: Source, mostly because it was on sale and bundled up with so…

You haven't bought or you haven't played any new games since 2004 ?

I haven’t bought games released after 2004. I bought a few games on Steam and GOG, but they were all released before 2004. Plus some free games (MUDs, FreeCiv etc.).

Re: Pirates playing a game dev simulator complain about piracy

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Post by SG- »

JonnieCache wrote: post #17

Yesterday I bought some mp3s legally off amazon. They were 128 kbit/s. I deleted them out of rage/spite and ordered the CD, which is out of print and so all the money went to a second hand record dealer. If only I'd had recourse to piracy in that instance!

I was under the impression Amazon used 256Kbit VBR?

Re: Pirates playing a game dev simulator complain about piracy

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Post by guard-of-terra »

workbench wrote: post #36

Pretty much sums up why so many studios consider the PC an after thought if at all these days. Also how stupid are windows users just downloading "FULL CRACKED WORKING DEFINITELY NO VIRUSES TURN OFF YOUR CHECKER FOR FALSE POSITIVES" in this day and age.

This is what shocked me in Bitcoin community, btw.

Most of them use Windows and forums as means of distributing software. Somebody writes "Here is the new Bitcoin miner release, get it here http://someshadydomain - and everybody actually downloads and runs it.

And they somehow get by with it.

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