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Korean Beauty Contestants – Face Morphing

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Re: Korean Beauty Contestants – Face Morphing

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Look here: http://i.imgur.com/7kdgJ32.jpg Particularly at #18, where it's most obvious. These pictures have been photoshopped to give the ladies the elfin look that's popular right now in Korea.

Some of the real faces have a lot of character - and they were all turned mindless-looking by the photoshopping.

I would argue the same is, or rather can be, true of makeup, in general.

Re: Korean Beauty Contestants – Face Morphing

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South korea has a far lower genetic diversity then a lot of european countries, and America for sure. In a totally non-racist way, the "all look same" stereotype may have more truth than it does for a lot of other countries.

This is quite easy to test: just take 20 beauty queens from North Korea and see what diversity you get. I believe the genetic diversity in the two countries is about the same, but they have been isolated for around 50+ years, so there is some great science to be had once North Korea opens up (think Iceland).

"Beauty queens" is a terrible group to sample from. It is not in any way whatsoever random, which is what you would need to study. "Beauty" has many subjective components, which can change rapidly.

Re: Korean Beauty Contestants – Face Morphing

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It's all in good spirit, but I can't help to note that it wreeks of the old racist trope "all look the same" http://healthland.time.com/2010/11/24/they-all-look-the-same... And perhaps also a bit sexist? I dunno, maybe I'm overly sensitive.

The problem is that "they all look the same" is actually a factual observation about how our brains recognize faces. So, if you label it as a "racist trope" you end up implying that racism is part of human nature... which I'm sure is not what you want.

This wouldn't be the first time "basic human nature" flys at odds with equality movements.

Re: Korean Beauty Contestants – Face Morphing

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I wonder whether this analysis supports the assertion that these were photoshopped? http://kotaku.com/blame-photoshop-for-koreas-beauty-queen-cl...

I would think there would be even fewer "eigenfaces" if someone had Photoshopped them to look alike.

Some of the photos were taken at slightly different angles. Perhaps that accounts for some eigenfaces.

Re: Korean Beauty Contestants – Face Morphing

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It's not a racial thing. See these translated Korean netizen comments: http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2013/04/foreign-media-outlet... > 1. [+238, -4] They look the same even in our eyes, I can't imagine in the eyes of foreigners... -,.- > 2. [+234, -9] ㅋㅋㅋㅋ I thought all the faces were ctrl + C and ctrl + V with just the shirts changed. They should be ashamed of getting plastic surgery, how could they even think of…

Internet commenters slagging off beauty contestants as identical barbies? News at eleven. No, it's that people are getting het up about this particular instance that feels a bit... xenophobic at least. Especially because of the apparent credulity that a bunch of press photos was received with.

Jeez, can't a guy read an article about principal component analysis on a published sample of photos without being painted as some kind of racist xenophobe?

It's hardly the first time those looking for something to take issue with have found it in digital imaging: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenna

Re: Korean Beauty Contestants – Face Morphing

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post #8

It's all in good spirit, but I can't help to note that it wreeks of the old racist trope "all look the same" http://healthland.time.com/2010/11/24/they-all-look-the-same... And perhaps also a bit sexist? I dunno, maybe I'm overly sensitive.

This experiment doesn't seem to be positing at all Koreans look the same but rather that all Korean beauty contestants look he same. The implication being, not that Koreans look similar to each other, but that they have similar standards of beauty. Apparently, most of these women have had plastic surgery so they all seem to have the same ideal when it comes to their face. I'd like to see a Brazilian (another country…

Rather, in this sample of 20 photos the contestants look similar, but "contestant 1, 2 and 6 are more distinct than the rest of the contestants".

I thought he did pretty well to not draw any conclusions in the article.

Re: Korean Beauty Contestants – Face Morphing

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that "they all look the same" is actually a factual observation about how our brains recognize faces. So, if you label it as a "racist trope" you end up implying that racism is part of human nature... which I'm sure is not what you want.

This wouldn't be the first time "basic human nature" flys at odds with equality movements.

In this case, it would be an inequality movement

Re: Korean Beauty Contestants – Face Morphing

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that "they all look the same" is actually a factual observation about how our brains recognize faces. So, if you label it as a "racist trope" you end up implying that racism is part of human nature... which I'm sure is not what you want.

This wouldn't be the first time "basic human nature" flys at odds with equality movements.

In this case, it would be an inequality movement

Re: Korean Beauty Contestants – Face Morphing

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that "they all look the same" is actually a factual observation about how our brains recognize faces. So, if you label it as a "racist trope" you end up implying that racism is part of human nature... which I'm sure is not what you want.

This wouldn't be the first time "basic human nature" flys at odds with equality movements.

In this case, it would be an inequality movement

Re: Korean Beauty Contestants – Face Morphing

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that "they all look the same" is actually a factual observation about how our brains recognize faces. So, if you label it as a "racist trope" you end up implying that racism is part of human nature... which I'm sure is not what you want.

This wouldn't be the first time "basic human nature" flys at odds with equality movements.

In this case, it would be an inequality movement
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