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Twitter Should Shut Me Down

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Re: Twitter Should Shut Me Down

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From a purely technical perspective they could using platform.twitter.com/widgets.js that the blog includes.

I sincerely doubt they would use their external JS to take down competitors websites. They would instantly lose any trust across the whole internet.

Of course it would be a completely stupid thing for Twitter to do (unless they get hacked). Just saying that technically it is possible.

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From a purely technical perspective they could using platform.twitter.com/widgets.js that the blog includes.

I don't think that would result in an internal server error.

With some effort it could result in an internal server error. With no effort it could result in an "Internal Server Error" being printed.

Re: Twitter Should Shut Me Down

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It's amazing how much devs want to build on top of Twitter. There's got to be an opportunity for Twitter to monetize that instead of fighting it and pissing everyone off. Why can't they just have some reasonable fees for API access?

There's got to be an opportunity for Twitter to monetize that instead of fighting it and pissing everyone off.

Agreed, and speaking personally, I would love to pay Twitter $XXX/month, especially if it included some form of "we'll reply to X emails within an hour" support.

The fact that they're not even charging $20/month for minimal API access is baffling to me. I'd expect it'd only help reduce spam as well!

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I don't like this trend with services being shut down by the big guys in the industry. You see what happened with AppGratis, and now this. I understand the whole TOS violation thing, but when a big company can shut down a successful startup just because they don't like what they're doing, it doesn't jive with that whole capitalism thing. Is there anything we can do about this, or is it just a product of building on s…

It would surprise me if this was new. I bet this kind of thing has happened for as long as business has happened, but the owned-resource being built on was more likely real estate, whether it was some lord who could kick a peasant off his land or some industrialist who could shut down a shop owner in the town he built for his factory.

If anything, we might be less susceptible to it now. It would make a fascinating study, anyway.

Re: Twitter Should Shut Me Down

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I don't like this trend with services being shut down by the big guys in the industry. You see what happened with AppGratis, and now this. I understand the whole TOS violation thing, but when a big company can shut down a successful startup just because they don't like what they're doing, it doesn't jive with that whole capitalism thing. Is there anything we can do about this, or is it just a product of building on s…

If you camp out in somebody else's walled garden, you can't really complain when they decide they don't like the mess you're making and throw you out. Trying to prevent this somehow (and how, exactly? Legislatively mandated API access?) would be much more anti-capitalist.

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My first thought is: This is a great way to get their attention. If you've been surreptitiously flying under the radar up until now, I think that stage is long gone. On the flip side, maybe instead of shutting you down, they should acquire you and then shut you down. That's a win-win, right?

Why would they acquire him when they could shut him down and replicate the service? It's not like they have much of a reputation to maintain. He doesn't have extremely significant traction (otherwise they would have done something by now) and AFAICT he doesn't hold any patents. To clarify: I don't mean to disparage him, but acquisitions have to bring some sort of value to the acquirer.

The cost to Twitter of even re-discovering what it is about his API and analytics that his customers prefer to Twitter Ads could easily outweigh the cost of an acqui-hire.

Re: Twitter Should Shut Me Down

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It's amazing how much devs want to build on top of Twitter. There's got to be an opportunity for Twitter to monetize that instead of fighting it and pissing everyone off. Why can't they just have some reasonable fees for API access?

There's got to be an opportunity for Twitter to monetize that instead of fighting it and pissing everyone off. Agreed, and speaking personally, I would love to pay Twitter $XXX/month, especially if it included some form of "we'll reply to X emails within an hour" support. The fact that they're not even charging $20/month for minimal API access is baffling to me. I'd expect it'd only help reduce spam as well!

> The fact that they're not even charging $20/month for minimal API access is baffling to me.

The devs who experiment and make something cool are often worth more than the minimal charge.

However I would agree that rather than having arbitrary limits using devs as a revenue stream makes sense (give everyone a portion of what you currently allow and allow payed upgrades)

Re: Twitter Should Shut Me Down

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I don't think that would result in an internal server error.

With some effort it could result in an internal server error. With no effort it could result in an "Internal Server Error" being printed.

True. I hadn't considered that.

Re: Twitter Should Shut Me Down

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's got to be an opportunity for Twitter to monetize that instead of fighting it and pissing everyone off. Agreed, and speaking personally, I would love to pay Twitter $XXX/month, especially if it included some form of "we'll reply to X emails within an hour" support. The fact that they're not even charging $20/month for minimal API access is baffling to me. I'd expect it'd only help reduce spam as well!

> The fact that they're not even charging $20/month for minimal API access is baffling to me. The devs who experiment and make something cool are often worth more than the minimal charge. However I would agree that rather than having arbitrary limits using devs as a revenue stream makes sense (give everyone a portion of what you currently allow and allow payed upgrades)

give everyone a portion of what you currently allow and allow payed upgrades

Exactly - there are plenty of options available.

The devs who experiment and make something cool are often worth more than the minimal charge.

I'm just wondering how many such developers would be put off by such a relatively small charge?

Obviously, the situation now is very different to when Twitter was still building momentum.

I'm just confused that they don't come out and say "From the 1st of May, we will be charging all new API accounts for access."

Re: Twitter Should Shut Me Down

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post #3

My first thought is: This is a great way to get their attention. If you've been surreptitiously flying under the radar up until now, I think that stage is long gone. On the flip side, maybe instead of shutting you down, they should acquire you and then shut you down. That's a win-win, right?

Why would they acquire him when they could shut him down and replicate the service? It's not like they have much of a reputation to maintain. He doesn't have extremely significant traction (otherwise they would have done something by now) and AFAICT he doesn't hold any patents. To clarify: I don't mean to disparage him, but acquisitions have to bring some sort of value to the acquirer.

He is monetizing Twitter in a way that advertisers like better than what Twitter's own advertising department came up with. That has to be worth something to a company desperate for revenue.
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