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Why Entrepreneurs Hate Working at Big Companies

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Re: Why Entrepreneurs Hate Working at Big Companies

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Post by shurcooL »

blackhole wrote: post #13

This article has the right idea, but is obsessed with money. Money is not the fundamental motivator for all entrepreneurs. There are plenty of people who would rather work for themselves and barely be able to pay rent for the rest of their lives rather than work for a large company simply because they will be more happy doing what they love and barely managing to feed themselves than they will doing something they ha…

That's _exactly_ right, you nailed it. At least for me, that describes my motivations perfectly.

Re: Why Entrepreneurs Hate Working at Big Companies

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Post by noonespecial »

No feeling in the world is worse for an entrepreneurialy minded person than seeing a severe problem, knowing how to fix it to the point of demonstrating the solution, but being forbidden from doing so because of trivial politics.

You will find this by the dump-truck full at BigCo.

Re: Why Entrepreneurs Hate Working at Big Companies

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Post by dsfasfasf »

kamaal wrote: post #40
michaelochurch wrote: post #38

Way off the mark. It's not about compensation (if you succeed, VCs will tear you to shreds via multiple liquidation preferences and horrible terms). It's about autonomy and career development. Working at a big company makes sense if you can get allocated to a great project, and it's hard to tell from outside what the good projects are. Otherwise, you have to deal with red tape and approvals and resource requests and…

>>It's not about compensation Sorry, it is about the money. It has always been about the money. As I get older, I realize nothing apart from money even matters.

Sucks to be you. Money is important. But is is not everything.

Re: Why Entrepreneurs Hate Working at Big Companies

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Post by kamaal »

dsfasfasf wrote: post #43
kamaal wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>It's not about compensation Sorry, it is about the money. It has always been about the money. As I get older, I realize nothing apart from money even matters.

Sucks to be you. Money is important. But is is not everything.

>>Money is important. But is is not everything.

People generally say that when they have all the money in the world. Or they have never felt a deficiency of it.

>>Sucks to be you.

It sucks to be without money.

You are right.

Re: Why Entrepreneurs Hate Working at Big Companies

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Post by marssaxman »

kamaal wrote: post #44
dsfasfasf wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sucks to be you. Money is important. But is is not everything.

>>Money is important. But is is not everything. People generally say that when they have all the money in the world. Or they have never felt a deficiency of it. >>Sucks to be you. It sucks to be without money. You are right.

Consider Maslow's hierarchy: money solves physiological needs, helps with safety needs, may ease but cannot really solve love/belonging needs, helps a little with esteem needs, and does almost nothing for self-actualization needs.

Money is important - you have to solve your basic needs - but money is not everything, because it cannot solve your most sophisticated needs.

Re: Why Entrepreneurs Hate Working at Big Companies

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Post by thewarrior »

marssaxman wrote: post #45
kamaal wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>Money is important. But is is not everything. People generally say that when they have all the money in the world. Or they have never felt a deficiency of it. >>Sucks to be you. It sucks to be without money. You are right.

Consider Maslow's hierarchy: money solves physiological needs, helps with safety needs, may ease but cannot really solve love/belonging needs, helps a little with esteem needs, and does almost nothing for self-actualization needs. Money is important - you have to solve your basic needs - but money is not everything, because it cannot solve your most sophisticated needs.

Maybe having lots of money indicates that you have achieved self actualization by solving your most sophisticated needs ?

Re: Why Entrepreneurs Hate Working at Big Companies

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Post by hpcorona »

michaelochurch wrote: post #39
trevor99 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't intend it to be about money. I also said that entrepreneurs want a 1% shot at ruling the world (king vs. rich). It's really about perception of control and perception of fairness around hard work.

A 1% shot of ruling the world is pretty useless. That's a 99% shot at failure. Also, who wants to rule the world? All taken, it's a pretty fucking ugly thing and it has some awful people in it. I know some people have that ambition, but not me. A 75% shot at never having to take goddamn orders, on the other hand, is something I'd do things I can't put in print for. That's what I'm aiming for. I don't want to be some…

I belive the 1% example is referring to trust your heart even when people discourages you but you know your idea should work...

Also i belive, being able to take orders is very valuable to the team, even if you are the ultra master chief... Closed to not taking orders? Then you are starting with your left foot in being a leader...

Just my thoughts...

Re: Why Entrepreneurs Hate Working at Big Companies

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Post by michaelochurch »

hpcorona wrote: post #47
michaelochurch wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A 1% shot of ruling the world is pretty useless. That's a 99% shot at failure. Also, who wants to rule the world? All taken, it's a pretty fucking ugly thing and it has some awful people in it. I know some people have that ambition, but not me. A 75% shot at never having to take goddamn orders, on the other hand, is something I'd do things I can't put in print for. That's what I'm aiming for. I don't want to be some…

I belive the 1% example is referring to trust your heart even when people discourages you but you know your idea should work... Also i belive, being able to take orders is very valuable to the team, even if you are the ultra master chief... Closed to not taking orders? Then you are starting with your left foot in being a leader... Just my thoughts...

Actually, I think part of being a good leader is not ordering people around, but inspiring, guiding, and teaching them.

I don't mind taking direction, but traditional management turns me off.

Re: Why Entrepreneurs Hate Working at Big Companies

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Post by hpcorona »

michaelochurch wrote: post #48
hpcorona wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I belive the 1% example is referring to trust your heart even when people discourages you but you know your idea should work... Also i belive, being able to take orders is very valuable to the team, even if you are the ultra master chief... Closed to not taking orders? Then you are starting with your left foot in being a leader... Just my thoughts...

Actually, I think part of being a good leader is not ordering people around, but inspiring, guiding, and teaching them. I don't mind taking direction , but traditional management turns me off.

Yeah, you're right, that's a better approach
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