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California Court Bans Checking Smartphone Maps While Driving

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Re: California Court Bans Checking Smartphone Maps While Driving

#41
post #37

"Driving without due care and attention" is a catch-all violation that covers everything. There is no need and it is a waste of legislative resources to define all these specific things you can't do while driving.

Frankly I don't even see the point of explicitly banning drunk driving. All of the other laws covering reckless driving should more than cover any drunk driving scenerio.

I guess pointing out that laws already cover things is not as politically savy as passing new laws.

Re: California Court Bans Checking Smartphone Maps While Driving

#42
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are at a red light, you aren't driving.

Actually, in California, you are. CA distracted driving laws don't distinguish between stopped cars and cars in motion. Reading a text (or, now, checking a map) while stopped at a red light is legally the same as doing so while driving down the highway.

What do you need to do to not be legally driving? Park the car? Turn off the engine? Get out of the car?

Re: California Court Bans Checking Smartphone Maps While Driving

#43
All of the people saying: "why a law against this specifically?" should read the fine article. The court didn't "ban" checking smartphone maps while driving. It interpreted that California's distracted driving law could be applied to checking maps on your phone while driving, not just texting while driving. That's how these things work. The law is general, courts apply it to the specific circumstances to set a precedent for similar circumstances.

Re: California Court Bans Checking Smartphone Maps While Driving

#44
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are putting a lot of faith in technology that doesn't exist nearly how you imagine it.

When the infrastructure becomes available, I have a hard time imagining how "self-driving" cars could possibly be any worse than humans driving cars.

Well, their is always the possibility that self driving cars could get hacked.

Although, even in that respect it would be pretty difficult to do worse than current cars. [1]

[1] http://www.ted.com/talks/avi_rubin_all_your_devices_can_be_h...

Re: California Court Bans Checking Smartphone Maps While Driving

#45

Are paper maps illegal too? What about having someone in the passenger seat check the map and then tell me what to do? Can they hold the phone in front of my face for me so I can see the map? I honestly just wish they'd settle for a simple, concrete description of what's acceptable while driving and what isn't. Like, you must always keep your eyes on the road, or you must always have both hands on the wheel, or whate…

> you must always have both hands on the wheel

There aren't any folks driving manual in your area?

Re: California Court Bans Checking Smartphone Maps While Driving

#46

Just a clarification guys: In California, the decisions of the state appelate courts (for levels below California's Supreme Court) are elective. That means, any lower court in the state can select to follow the decisions of any appellate state court. In practice, this means that the decision potentially applies to all of California, or to none of it. Moreover, consistency is not required among the choice of precedenc…

Thank you, both the way appellate decisions work and the fact that it refers to input not viewing were unclear.

Re: California Court Bans Checking Smartphone Maps While Driving

#47
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, in California, you are. CA distracted driving laws don't distinguish between stopped cars and cars in motion. Reading a text (or, now, checking a map) while stopped at a red light is legally the same as doing so while driving down the highway.

What do you need to do to not be legally driving? Park the car? Turn off the engine? Get out of the car?

I believe you need to move out of the travel lanes of the public roadway. Pulling onto the shoulder, for instance.

Re: California Court Bans Checking Smartphone Maps While Driving

#48
post #24
post #4

I guess this invalidates what I've been used to for the last 4 years about using phone mapping. [1] I've always wondered what would happen if a police officer thought you were texting but you were actually using a GPS, or changing a song on your iPod (does it matter if it has cellular connection or not?) Presumably we would need to exclude dash-mounted or built-in GPS manipulation as well. This makes everything with…

Built in GPS should probably disable input when the car is moving, to discourage distractions.

Many of the newer units do.
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