Did I read correctly that you have to sign up for a Gold Support Package @ $400 / month before you have access to GCE?
Google Compute Engine: Expanded availability, new features, and lower prices
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Re: Google Compute Engine: Expanded availability, new features, and lower prices
#42Did I read correctly that you have to sign up for a Gold Support Package @ $400 / month before you have access to GCE?
At this point, yes.
Re: Google Compute Engine: Expanded availability, new features, and lower prices
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
> When has Google shut down a paid service that was popular and under heavy development like GCE and GAE? As far as I know, never. I've been compiling a list of live and shut down services/products/etc (~299 so far), and while payment doesn't seem to be an important factor (plenty of shut down paid things, including many more advertising services than I expected), I cannot name a service which was under heavy develop…
This sounds very interesting -- is it public or can you make it public?
It's not public yet; I haven't finished it (I need to code 4 variables for like 100 entries, since I only thought of the variables partway through assembling the list, and I have 3 or 4 pages to check for additional entries) and the analysis (logistic regression on the variables, and survival curves).
The idea is to try to predict future shut downs, but it's turned out to be a lot more work than I expected...
Re: Google Compute Engine: Expanded availability, new features, and lower prices
#44Does anyone know what the effective bandwidth and latency would be between machines? They talk about thousands of cores a little too casually. I guess they mean unrelated independent instances of some task as opposed to actual parallelism. I am confused as to what market segment they are going for here.
According to this review, their bandwidth is high and latency low, compared to EC2: http://bit.ly/Z3Peob
That is pretty fast. Obviously not like infiniband or what you use for message passing, but pretty considerable. It would be difficult to scale to thousands of nodes that need to communicate, but it is definitely good for most applications. When they mentioned the biostatistics group, I thought they might have been making a pass at scientific HPC type applications, but I guess this is more specialized. Prices are really reasonable, too.
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#45Does anyone have experience in deploying Rails app to both Amazon EC2 and Google App Engine? How was your experience in terms of price, speed and easiness of deploying/maintaining?
I haven't looked at AppEngine lately but I believe you cannot run Rails on it. It has its own proprietary service and API that you have to write against. It's not like EC2 where you pretty much can install anything and do whatever.
You should be able to run Rails apps on AppEngine through JRuby.
Re: Google Compute Engine: Expanded availability, new features, and lower prices
#46These are paid services but before I'd jump in, Google would have to guarantee this service for say 5 years, with updates and no catch (like increasing the price by 5000% to force you out.) Microsoft is a lot of things, but one they do good is guaranteed, long term, support for their products. At least for the core ones. For example they are still supporting Windows XP, so when Coca Cola signs at the dotted line they…
My philosophy is to always have an exit strategy.
I'm far from Google's biggest fan but I wouldn't depend on any platform remaining over a 5 year period and would instead avoid lock in. For example Heroku in convenient for Rails but it should only be a few days to a couple of weeks to migrate to raw AWS any other hosting solution if required. This may mean limiting the use of the additional features and services integrated with Heroku.
Providing portability was possible (and I haven't looked into this service so it may not be simple) if I was a VC startup my bigger worry would be that Google would have too much information about my operations, scale and growth that I would prefer they didn't have until I chose to give it to them.
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#47Is anyone actually using compute engine here? Would be interested in your experiences. The scalr reference point sounds like payola to me.
I'm using it (and I have seen similar results consistently to scalr's), but I also work for Google (and my load is a minecraft server, not a business), so I guess my opinion is biased.
Here's another review though: http://www.stackdriver.com/gce-cassandra/
Re: Google Compute Engine: Expanded availability, new features, and lower prices
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
I haven't looked at AppEngine lately but I believe you cannot run Rails on it. It has its own proprietary service and API that you have to write against. It's not like EC2 where you pretty much can install anything and do whatever.
You should be able to run Rails apps on AppEngine through JRuby.
Is there an ActiveRecord binding to AppEngine Datastore?
Re: Google Compute Engine: Expanded availability, new features, and lower prices
#49These are paid services but before I'd jump in, Google would have to guarantee this service for say 5 years, with updates and no catch (like increasing the price by 5000% to force you out.) Microsoft is a lot of things, but one they do good is guaranteed, long term, support for their products. At least for the core ones. For example they are still supporting Windows XP, so when Coca Cola signs at the dotted line they…
My philosophy is to always have an exit strategy. I'm far from Google's biggest fan but I wouldn't depend on any platform remaining over a 5 year period and would instead avoid lock in. For example Heroku in convenient for Rails but it should only be a few days to a couple of weeks to migrate to raw AWS any other hosting solution if required. This may mean limiting the use of the additional features and services inte…
@josephlord ^ This man gets it.
Shame on you if you walk into something with half/no plan. Price should never be your single (or top) motivator for service selection; ESPECIALLY with something as crucial as a business dependency like IaaS.
Re: Google Compute Engine: Expanded availability, new features, and lower prices
#50I'm seeing lots of numbers here of throughput, latency and IO, all of which are great, but does anyone have any experience with cpu performance. Will a GCE High CPU machine beat an EC2 high CPU machine in straight flops?
It's KVM on Sandy Bridge; effectively the same as EC2 cluster compute. http://blog.zencoder.com/2012/07/23/first-look-at-google-com...
Where in that article does it say anything about KVM or sandy bridge?