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My divorce from Google - One year later

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Re: My divorce from Google - One year later

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post #30

I thought he switched to self hosted, open source alternatives. What a silly article.

There is more kinds of crazy than RMS. Also mail server seems self hosted.

RMS may seem crazy but there's a method to the madness. No one accuses him of hypocrisy or internal inconsistency. The author, on the other hand, is hilariously inconsistent (esp given his comfort with Facebook and the "settlement" copout)

Re: My divorce from Google - One year later

#42
post #34

Given his reference to downloading apps from the Play store and Amazon store... it sure sounds like he's still using an Android device.

So what?

Play is a Google service. It kind of smacks of something beginning with "h" and ending with "ypocrisy" when you still use a Google service after going through the requisite self-flagellation to go out of your way to not use them, and then write a tone-deaf article on how awesome it is to do so.

It doesn't make much sense that someone would go through all this effort to ditch a company and still use one of their flagship products. That would be like me swearing off Apple and still carrying an iPhone.

Re: My divorce from Google - One year later

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

generally an honest and upstanding ad network Unless you happen to be a small guy and fall on the wrong side of their political beliefs: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5438797

That is neither dishonest nor down standing, that is them annoyingly not doing business with someone.

Treating the big guy one way and the little guy another may be "pragmatic" but that's not upstanding in my book. Sure, it's within their rights to do business with whom they want, but it doesn't mean we can't call a double standard when we see one.

Re: My divorce from Google - One year later

#45
I don't understand why everyone is so big on switching away from Google these days. Some of my coworkers have been doing this as well.

Instead of giving away your personal information to one place, why not give it away to 10 or 20 places?

I think it makes sense to use the best tool for the job. At least when it comes to email, maps, and search I would argue that Gmail, Google Maps, and Google are the best services by a long shot.

Not to knock Duck Duck Go, but it would drive me crazy to have to do multiple searches or go through more results just to find something I could find on Google in the first half of the first page of results.

Sure I would get used to it eventually, but it's not worth losing my own time/productivity over.

Re: My divorce from Google - One year later

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

generally an honest and upstanding ad network Unless you happen to be a small guy and fall on the wrong side of their political beliefs: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5438797

That's not their political beliefs, that's their lawyers making a risk vs reward decision. Why is everybody so quick to attribute things to malice when they can be explained by simple pragmatism?

s/politics//

To me the point is that when you start arbitrarily enforcing rules against some people (small guys) and not others (big guys) it smacks of hypocrisy. Maybe you can explain how it was just blind process -- it still stinks.

Re: My divorce from Google - One year later

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post #36
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sounds like it was a "google divorce" and not necessarily a "facebook divorce." Are you advocating for a more broad "social networking divorce"?

I'm thinking that leaving Google due to privacy concerns, while keeping Facebook seems... odd.

Why is it odd ? On Facebook you deliberately only share what you want others to see.

Emails and web searches in particular can be pretty incriminating if made public.

Re: My divorce from Google - One year later

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post #21

I'm more curious what the author uses for his self-hosted email. None of the IMAP servers I've seen so far are particularly stellar.

Third comment, but it bears repeating. Dovecot.

I use it with Postfix, using Dovecot's virtual domain support to host various domains/mailboxes. Dovecot with sieve sorts mail server side. It's fast and works incredibly well.

Re: My divorce from Google - One year later

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post #45

I don't understand why everyone is so big on switching away from Google these days. Some of my coworkers have been doing this as well. Instead of giving away your personal information to one place, why not give it away to 10 or 20 places? I think it makes sense to use the best tool for the job. At least when it comes to email, maps, and search I would argue that Gmail, Google Maps, and Google are the best services by…

The big problem for me with Google services is the unnecessary and unwanted integration with Google+.

I couldn't sign up for a YouTube account without creating a Google+ account with my full name. Why should all the videos I watch be made public ? Likewise I can't search today without being constantly asked to sign in.

I want the old Google back.

Re: My divorce from Google - One year later

#50
Personally, I just don't like to use Google because I think they are gaining way too much power to circumvent fair competition in the market, and even too much power over the lives of individuals. When I see google hardware devices running google operating systems with google web browsers and an increasing majority of people using them to almost exclusively access google web services and run google software... I'm sorry, but it's just bad news.

No matter how ahead-of-the-curve google innovation can be, I just don't think it's worth it to sell our souls to one company for the sake of convenience.

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