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Re: How to Watch Netflix in Ubuntu Linux

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Post by sneak » Sun, Mar 17, 2013, 5:19 AM UTC

rayiner wrote: post #38

sneak wrote: post #37

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This presupposes that one can own information in the first place. The "terms" are that I download shit for free.

> This presupposes that one can own information in the first place. I think the case for owning original digital creations is far stronger than say the case for owning patches of dirt that were here before you were born and will still be here after you're dead. If I make a song or write some software, I'm creating something of my own in the very purest sense. Something that didn't exist before me, something wholly at…

Because you can't own information. It is impossible.

The case could be made that you can't own real property, sure. But you will find few to back you when you shoot someone with a shotgun for maliciously singing a song you "own" versus maliciously trespassing in your home.

Re: How to Watch Netflix in Ubuntu Linux

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Post by sneak » Sun, Mar 17, 2013, 5:21 AM UTC

rayiner wrote: post #38

sneak wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This presupposes that one can own information in the first place. The "terms" are that I download shit for free.

> This presupposes that one can own information in the first place. I think the case for owning original digital creations is far stronger than say the case for owning patches of dirt that were here before you were born and will still be here after you're dead. If I make a song or write some software, I'm creating something of my own in the very purest sense. Something that didn't exist before me, something wholly at…

> If I make a song or write some software, I'm creating something of my own in the very purest sense.

I think that's where our emotions fool us, here.

Let's say I write a song. You hear it and sing it every day. Does the song belong to me? Should I have remedies against you for singing MY song? The whole thing is insane.

Re: How to Watch Netflix in Ubuntu Linux

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Post by halter73 » Sun, Mar 17, 2013, 6:46 AM UTC

sneak wrote: post #41

rayiner wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This presupposes that one can own information in the first place. I think the case for owning original digital creations is far stronger than say the case for owning patches of dirt that were here before you were born and will still be here after you're dead. If I make a song or write some software, I'm creating something of my own in the very purest sense. Something that didn't exist before me, something wholly at…

Because you can't own information. It is impossible. The case could be made that you can't own real property, sure. But you will find few to back you when you shoot someone with a shotgun for maliciously singing a song you "own" versus maliciously trespassing in your home.

Bad analogy. The only reason it is acceptable to shoot a trespasser invading your home is the issue of safety. There aren't that many people who would back up a landlord shooting their delinquent tenants with a shotgun either. As with copyright infringement, the landlord would need to turn to the courts.

Re: How to Watch Netflix in Ubuntu Linux

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Post by dscrd » Sun, Mar 17, 2013, 8:10 AM UTC

Netflix works (apparently) natively on my TV. That's why I use it: it's just far too convenient to ignore.

Re: How to Watch Netflix in Ubuntu Linux

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Post by youngerdryas » Sun, Mar 17, 2013, 12:10 PM UTC

sneak wrote: post #41

rayiner wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This presupposes that one can own information in the first place. I think the case for owning original digital creations is far stronger than say the case for owning patches of dirt that were here before you were born and will still be here after you're dead. If I make a song or write some software, I'm creating something of my own in the very purest sense. Something that didn't exist before me, something wholly at…

Because you can't own information. It is impossible. The case could be made that you can't own real property, sure. But you will find few to back you when you shoot someone with a shotgun for maliciously singing a song you "own" versus maliciously trespassing in your home.

Hey Internet hippy, do you mind if people pass around your diary and photos.

Re: How to Watch Netflix in Ubuntu Linux

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Post by tptacek » Sun, Mar 17, 2013, 7:06 PM UTC

sneak wrote: post #37

rayiner wrote: post #23

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If you don't like the terms they're offering, just don't consume the content they create.

This presupposes that one can own information in the first place. The "terms" are that I download shit for free.

Come on.

The "terms" are that I get direct access to the SQL database behind your application for free. You can mess around with your bullshit rights-management "privilege" and "account management" features all you want.

You know exactly what I'm talking about. You know exactly how dumb these "terms" are. Might does not make right. And if you're going to make a stand for some set of principals, can't you find something better to fight for than free mainstream movies?

Re: How to Watch Netflix in Ubuntu Linux

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Post by sneak » Mon, Mar 18, 2013, 7:26 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #46

sneak wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This presupposes that one can own information in the first place. The "terms" are that I download shit for free.

Come on. The "terms" are that I get direct access to the SQL database behind your application for free. You can mess around with your bullshit rights-management "privilege" and "account management" features all you want. You know exactly what I'm talking about. You know exactly how dumb these "terms" are. Might does not make right. And if you're going to make a stand for some set of principals, can't you find somethi…

Sure, provided I fail to secure it.

The analogy of "might" doesn't hold up when it's just signals, to me.