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Lord British launches “Shroud of the Avatar” on Kickstarter

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Re: Lord British launches “Shroud of the Avatar” on Kickstarter

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Per the title of this post, it's not exactly "Ultima" or a sequel. As found on the official site's FAQ:

"But is this the Ultima sequel I’ve been waiting for?

This is NOT an “Ultima”, as that is a trademark owned by Electronic Arts. Ultima fans know though, that great RPG’s can be been played anywhere; on earth, in space, in Britannia and in many other lands. I am creating a new land for Shroud of the Avatar, which will adhere to the design principles that all of my FRPG games adhered to." https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/?page_id=19

Re: Lord British launches “Shroud of the Avatar” on Kickstarter

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It is pretty sad that kickstarter gets abused like this so much. Garriott is filthy rich, and has been in the game industry for decades. There is absolutely no need for him to be seeking financing from us, he could pay for it a dozen times over out of his own pocket. His reputation means he could easily get actual funding if he doesn't want to risk his own money. But instead, he abuses the willingness of ordinary people to take all the risk for him, and get nothing back in return.

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I'm glad that "Meaningful PvP" was singled out. PvP is important to me and its one of the things that Ultima Online got right that vast swaths of MMOs since have floundered with (in my opinion). In parts of the world (Felucca[1]), UO was a rare RPG where anyone could kill anyone, for any reason, but with the repercussion that they would be branded a "Bad person" (visible with a gray or red name instead of blue). Stea…

Many of these things are qualities I enjoy about eve online in principle. If only it weren't so tedious for 98% of the time.

Re: Lord British launches “Shroud of the Avatar” on Kickstarter

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> Multiplayer Online Game - which can also be played solo player / offline I remember when UO came out...I never played it but I wondered if it would be the end of good single-player RPGs. Luckily, it wasn't, but it was basically the end of Ultima as a series, though arguably it wasn't a causation. In any case, it's hard to imagine an RPG world that could be designed successfully to be a MMO and a good single player…

Ultima VII has remained my fondest memory of an RPG. It was a world that, in comparison to its contemporaries, was practically alive, a living, changing place (that I could visit with my specially tweaked CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT). I think TES has done a good job of taking up the mantle that Ultima VII set down, but for me nothing will duplicate the childhood wonder of encountering the level of immersion and detail that Ultima VII offered.

About simulations: after playing MUDs I wished for evolving worlds, player clans with the ability to claim territory and build structures, NPC factions that battled among themselves, ecologies, simulated NPCs that responded to invasions and events, the works. These have been achieved to some extent in recent games, but maybe the magic lies in the storytelling in the end.

Maybe what we need is professional scripters running MMO cities: imagine Lord British essentially playing himself as a full-time job, with the ability to spin quests and stories that permanently change the fabric of the world, fight off invading lords, launch expeditions, rezone areas, fund guilds, run his realm. That way we can have complex world simulations, player-driven clans, and the human storytelling element, all richly combined.

(I wish I'd played UO, it sounds fantastic. Realistically, I won't have the time or energy to play SotA intensively, but I'd certainly like to try it. Too bad it isn't 2.5D isometric...)

Re: Lord British launches “Shroud of the Avatar” on Kickstarter

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Might as well chime in with another Kickstarter in progress for a spiritual successor of another famous RPG: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inxile/torment-tides-of-... Kickstarter has been really great so far for people, like myself, who were and are very fond of the "old school" type of RPGs.

Yeah, I'm surprised the Torment KS didn't appear on HN after it ended up being the fastest KS to hit 1 million (8 hours).

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Re: Lord British launches “Shroud of the Avatar” on Kickstarter

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Might as well chime in with another Kickstarter in progress for a spiritual successor of another famous RPG: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inxile/torment-tides-of-... Kickstarter has been really great so far for people, like myself, who were and are very fond of the "old school" type of RPGs.

Yeah, I'm surprised the Torment KS didn't appear on HN after it ended up being the fastest KS to hit 1 million (8 hours).

wow, $2+ mln and still 28 days to go... http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inxile/torment-tides-of-...

Re: Lord British launches “Shroud of the Avatar” on Kickstarter

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, graphics were prettier, but controls were sluggish and unresponsive. Jumping mechanics were a nightmare. The series really started its downward slope from there.

Very, very recommended: Ultima Retrospective[1] by "Spoony". Goes into detail on the rise and fall of Ultima. [1]: http://spoonyexperiment.com/category/game-reviews/ultima-ret...

Holy unskippable obnoxious video ads, Batman!

Re: Lord British launches “Shroud of the Avatar” on Kickstarter

#49

It is pretty sad that kickstarter gets abused like this so much. Garriott is filthy rich, and has been in the game industry for decades. There is absolutely no need for him to be seeking financing from us, he could pay for it a dozen times over out of his own pocket. His reputation means he could easily get actual funding if he doesn't want to risk his own money. But instead, he abuses the willingness of ordinary peo…

Or ... this is a good way for him to see if there's actual interest in the product. And given his track record of actually finishing stuff, it seems like this is relatively low risk as far as Kickstarter projects go.

Re: Lord British launches “Shroud of the Avatar” on Kickstarter

#50

It is pretty sad that kickstarter gets abused like this so much. Garriott is filthy rich, and has been in the game industry for decades. There is absolutely no need for him to be seeking financing from us, he could pay for it a dozen times over out of his own pocket. His reputation means he could easily get actual funding if he doesn't want to risk his own money. But instead, he abuses the willingness of ordinary peo…

Nothing apart from a game?
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