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I don't think it did. What's the name of the guy who created django? I know the only reason I know of DHH and not django-guy is that DHH spent years dishonestly promoting rails/trashing java.
I don't think it did. What's the name of the guy who created django? Adrian Holovaty et al.
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While I agree with your criticism that he's attacking a strawman, I don't think there is any conflict of interest if he poses an opinion that he is using as a basis for a book. Many people write blog entries in support of a thesis they are evolving into a book.
I guess it's just somewhat poor wording to call it 'conflict of interest'. Maybe the post would benefit from a disclaimer - "I happen to be a big proponent of remote work and even wrote a book about how great it is. So I bring a set of pre-existing views to this issue" Point being is that when someone is a proponent of something (to the tune of publishing a book extolling it), you hardly expect them to offer an unbia…
Why would DHH go out of his way to be honest now? There's no upside for him at this point after laying down years of bullshit.
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/rhetorical+question
Yeah, I got what you were trying to do. The rhetorical question you chose didn't support your point.
Yes it does. Compare how many people know django guy vs how many people know DHH. One specific individual knowing who django guy is doesn't invalidate the argument.
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>How the hell did he contort himself into inferring that from what Gruber wrote?! It is called dishonesty. It is the entire reason anyone knows who DHH is.
It is called dishonesty. It is the entire reason anyone knows who DHH is. I understand you may not like the guy, but I'm pretty sure DHH's fame came mostly from creating Ruby on Rails.
Well, that or being very "vocal" about Rails. :)
It's not unlikely that there are younger people in tech who know him from 37signals and not RoR.
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But there's clearly a culture that needs to be attacked, and if one of the elements of that culture is that remote workers ARENT LOGGING INTO THE VPN then maybe Yahoo shouldn't have remote workers for the time being. Wait, so instead of revoking telecommuting privileges on the case-to-case basis, it makes more sense to ban telecommuting? I mean, just to make it perfectly clear, you're advocating that it doesn't matte…
It sends the message that this year's CEO moves fast and breaks stuff! :)
Some day, CEOs may succeed in convincing people that decisions have trade-offs and opportunity costs.
Some day. Maybe.
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#47Lets be honest here, 37signals is being a wolf in sheep's clothes here with their recent Yahoo posts.
Yahoo just ended their remote workforce program because they need better collaboration to occur which they believe can only happen face to face.
37signals sells colloborarion software for remote employees.
People seem to miss that it's in 37signals best interest to bash Yahoo for this move.
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#48> Most estimates put the number of remote workers between 300 and 500. Which estimates are those? Overall, this post reeks of victimizing. > So yes, remote workers are keeping Yahoo from being the “absolute best place to work”. Stop attacking a strawman! Nobody's arguing that remote workers are the one stumbling block between Yahoo and mountains of glory. But there's clearly a culture that needs to be attacked, and i…
People on HN are very quick to pull the conflict of interest card. People who write books about telecommuting unsurprisingly believe its a good thing and have a negative reaction the a major company cancelling it.
What amazes me beyond anything else is that there is anyone at all, aside from upper management, that even attempts to defend the killing of telecommuting. Anyone who isn't an exec at a large company does not have any real data on whether it's better or not. They may have anecdotes, they may even have a few anecdotes, but that's it. And, frankly, for execs there's an inherent conflict of interest. Just take Marissa Mayer :
http://healthland.time.com/2013/02/28/how-yahoo-ceo-marissa-...
This woman is ... I am sorry to use this word, she's disgusting. I have zero respect for someone who asks people to come into the office every morning, and says this makes things better, see she does it herself ... building a nursery into the fucking office, and for all I know she takes a helicopter to avoid the traffic.
This is about as honorable as an army company standing outside an indian encampment, armed to the teeth with automatic weapons, saying how they've "fairly negotiated a transfer of land".
These people are the reason we live in bland, empty inner cities with zero space for anyone and tiny apartments except for the super-rich. Telecommuting could solve that problem, and we should be fighting for it. To be exact, we should be fighting people like Marissa Mayer and other execs to get it.
Why the fuck don't we do that ?