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Re: We use Trello.

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Post by fwr »

_sv3a wrote: post #26
Rovanion wrote: post #20

Completely off topic: That header image: Is it animated when window.onscroll() is fired? I find one reference in the code to e.addEventListener("scroll", v, !1) which I guess then fires the function v which does: v = function() { var t = parseInt(e.pageYOffset, 10); t = Math.min(u, t), t !== d && (d = t, t > 0 ? f(t * m, 1) : f(t / -6, -1 * t / u + 1), t >= u - 35 ? s(p, E) : i(p, E)) Could someone point me to some u…

Hi, I’m the guy who wrote the code. Here’s a gist for you: https://gist.github.com/porada/5047435

It looks incredibly cool when rubber band scrolling kicks in. Well done!

Re: We use Trello.

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Post by [deleted] »

spolsky wrote: post #14
melicerte wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the quick anwser. Any chance to have a download version anytime? I mean, a pay to download is totally acceptable. I'm asking this from a European points of view as Personal information could be stored into trello and Personal data protection laws in Europe are somehow different and more binding than the US ones.

I think I can confidently say that we will never offer that. The engineering costs are prohibitive and not cost-effective, even if you can charge the companies that need it. That said, if there are things that we can do to increase privacy while still hosting Trello on our own servers, we'll certainly consider those. I never want to commit to any particular feature, but it is not impossible that one day we will provi…

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Re: We use Trello.

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Post by pifflesnort »

spolsky wrote: post #14
melicerte wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the quick anwser. Any chance to have a download version anytime? I mean, a pay to download is totally acceptable. I'm asking this from a European points of view as Personal information could be stored into trello and Personal data protection laws in Europe are somehow different and more binding than the US ones.

I think I can confidently say that we will never offer that. The engineering costs are prohibitive and not cost-effective, even if you can charge the companies that need it. That said, if there are things that we can do to increase privacy while still hosting Trello on our own servers, we'll certainly consider those. I never want to commit to any particular feature, but it is not impossible that one day we will provi…

I can confidently say we'll never use Trello if we can't host it locally; integrate it into our directory system, back it up and manage upgrades on our own timeline, and have the assurance that it will continue to be accessible even if you as a company are not.

It's unfortunate that there's no meeting in the middle.

Re: We use Trello.

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Post by mhp »

melicerte wrote: post #12
spolsky wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We plan to offer add-on and premium services that might be of use to people who are getting a lot of value out of Trello already. For example you could imagine that large corporations that already have Trello throughout their organization might be happy to pay for centralized administration utilities. (PS I'm the founder of Fog Creek, creator of Trello)

Thanks for the quick anwser. Any chance to have a download version anytime? I mean, a pay to download is totally acceptable. I'm asking this from a European points of view as Personal information could be stored into trello and Personal data protection laws in Europe are somehow different and more binding than the US ones.

We are in the middle of getting Safe Harbor certified, which allows us to comply with all EU Data Protection laws, so that should no longer be an impediment for you.

Re: We use Trello.

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Post by Davertron »

kamaal wrote: post #37
arocks wrote: post #18

We have been using Trello for about two months and it is amazing how even the non-technical users could now finally "visualize" the project life cycle. Trello is disarmingly simple and like (early) Twitter, does one thing and it does it really well. This leads to users invent all sorts of use cases for it (again like Twitter). Trello, if it becomes wildly popular, can finally pull companies from the "Gantt chart" min…

Trello is great, I feel it will greatly influence teams which require collaboration and status tracking. But the way I see it, a lot of discipline with be required to 'update' it every now and then. Some thing that I felt will always be a problem with any process. Every time a process like this springs up, I get enthusiastic then the enthusiasm wears away. So as far as I'm concerned I still feel nothing really beats…

That's all fine and good if you're the only person working on the project, but when you have multiple people involved, you need something more than a notebook.

Re: We use Trello.

#46

Post by Davertron »

I would love to try using Trello at work. I use it for my own personal projects just to keep track of stuff.

We use Jira at work with a slew of plugins on top and our own custom processes, and it's AWFUL. It's complicated, there are different projects with different flows, ticket types, statuses, etc. The way we have it set up right now, you can't even move tickets into/out of a sprint once it's started!

I'm not railing on Jira though; I'm not even sure I know how "stock" Jira behaves. But I do think it's interesting that Jira and Trello expose their flexibility in totally different ways.

Re: We use Trello.

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Post by mhp »

pifflesnort wrote: post #43
spolsky wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think I can confidently say that we will never offer that. The engineering costs are prohibitive and not cost-effective, even if you can charge the companies that need it. That said, if there are things that we can do to increase privacy while still hosting Trello on our own servers, we'll certainly consider those. I never want to commit to any particular feature, but it is not impossible that one day we will provi…

I can confidently say we'll never use Trello if we can't host it locally; integrate it into our directory system, back it up and manage upgrades on our own timeline, and have the assurance that it will continue to be accessible even if you as a company are not. It's unfortunate that there's no meeting in the middle.

Some of the planned business features would be able to meet you in the middle, but like Joel said, we have no plans to ever sell a self hosted version. We understand that means some companies' policies will prevent some people from using Trello, but its a tradeoff we made.

As an aside, I suspect a few of the companies who, in the past, could "never" use software that wasn't installed on their own systems are probably using Salesforce now.

Re: We use Trello.

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Post by atesti »

spolsky wrote: post #14
melicerte wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the quick anwser. Any chance to have a download version anytime? I mean, a pay to download is totally acceptable. I'm asking this from a European points of view as Personal information could be stored into trello and Personal data protection laws in Europe are somehow different and more binding than the US ones.

I think I can confidently say that we will never offer that. The engineering costs are prohibitive and not cost-effective, even if you can charge the companies that need it. That said, if there are things that we can do to increase privacy while still hosting Trello on our own servers, we'll certainly consider those. I never want to commit to any particular feature, but it is not impossible that one day we will provi…

How many years do we have left with FogBugz before you kill the download version?

Re: We use Trello.

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Post by gecko »

mattvot wrote: post #6
melicerte wrote: post #4

Does anyone knows what is Trello business model? I always enjoy seeing "free forever" but, you know, only a few things really are free.

Yes, I was going to ask this too. Their tour page says "Trello is free, now and forever.". Call me a skeptic, but I don't see that holding true unless they have some money to keep it running.

That would better be phrased as, "any features that are currently free, stay free." Of course we're working on adding paid features to Trello; see spolsky's replies elsewhere in this thread, or my comment history, for more details.
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