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Tell HN: The problem with BangWithFriends - it's not anonymous

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Re: Tell HN: The problem with BangWithFriends - it's not anonymous

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> increase natural population growth A booty call app seems like a terrible place to promote parenting.

Why not? Starting from just $85/mo, http://kidswithout.us/ will raise them until they're 18.

I was sadly expecting that to work.

Re: Tell HN: The problem with BangWithFriends - it's not anonymous

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post #34

Interesting. Here's another problem I just discovered: "Men who live in Toronto, Ontario and who use BangWithFriends" - 65 "Females who live in Toronto, Ontario and who use BangWithFriends" - 6

that was my first though, when i saw this website.

"another website, which will be only used by men kind" ... and nobody got banged ever...

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but damn now i want access to the open graph search :D just to play around with it.

Re: Tell HN: The problem with BangWithFriends - it's not anonymous

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post #38

Ask HN: What is BangWithFriends? Edit: a Facebook app that where you can click on friends you want to sleep with. If they have the app, they are notified. I would think this would be more cool if both of you are only notified if you both signify that you want to sleep with each other. This could also be toned down to just signify romantic interest to get more engagement.

The fatal flaw in the model is "I'm going to click on all my friends to see who signals interest in me".

Fatal flaw or working as intended?

Re: Tell HN: The problem with BangWithFriends - it's not anonymous

#46

Ask HN: What is BangWithFriends? Edit: a Facebook app that where you can click on friends you want to sleep with. If they have the app, they are notified. I would think this would be more cool if both of you are only notified if you both signify that you want to sleep with each other. This could also be toned down to just signify romantic interest to get more engagement.

It does work only work based on mutual notifications. I know it's bad form to link to your own website, but I wrote at length about this here: http://www.zacharyalberico.net/blog/dating-websites/

You are looking at it from the point of view of the user if the system is working as desired.

From the point of view of the website, you're not driving clicks. You're not making money. You're not driving growth.

It is also bad for users. You do not drive clicks. Cannot pay for marketing. So your site gains no traction. And with no traction, actual users show up, can't find the people that they know, and then leave the virtual ghost town.

Therefore it sounds logical, but fails in practice.

Now add in a single feature. Add notifications to people saying that X people like them. Now people have a reason to come back. A reason to click on others. You get growth. Your website can make money. And you've become a spam site which completely lost the original idea. But you're a profitable spam site. And will probably drive more actual hookups than the pure form.

And this is why dating sites either fail trivially, or go on to suck.

Re: Tell HN: The problem with BangWithFriends - it's not anonymous

#47
post #38

Ask HN: What is BangWithFriends? Edit: a Facebook app that where you can click on friends you want to sleep with. If they have the app, they are notified. I would think this would be more cool if both of you are only notified if you both signify that you want to sleep with each other. This could also be toned down to just signify romantic interest to get more engagement.

The fatal flaw in the model is "I'm going to click on all my friends to see who signals interest in me".

That would damage the anonymity but perhaps there are ways to reduce this effect without greatly damaging the benefit to users to other services. For example, you could have a quota so you can only select say 10% of your friends at a time.

Re: Tell HN: The problem with BangWithFriends - it's not anonymous

#48

Those crazy kids with their crazy ideas about how to love each other. Good for them. I can imagine Version 2.0 being even more general (a craigslist of discreet hypothetical matching) for more than just sexual arrangements. But continuing the sexual theme, obviously the next logical step is N-way group hookups. It occurs to me that something similar could also be implemented in a distributed manner (for use offline o…

"split keys"

That just sounds painful.

Re: Tell HN: The problem with BangWithFriends - it's not anonymous

#49
post #32
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only on HN would sex involve asymmetric encryption and split keys. I kid, but I'd wait to see if this 'crazy idea' is successful (top tip: it won't be) before planning the second iteration.

> (top tip: it won't be) You seriously think so? Casual sex has been a major use of Facebook for quite a long time. This particular approach may not catch on, but I guarantee you that some variation of this idea eventually will work.

That doesn't mean that a majority of participants want to publicly identify themselves as such, with the default privacy settings and erosion Facebook encourages.

Perhaps if it was more subtle and used less targeted/classless language.

Re: Tell HN: The problem with BangWithFriends - it's not anonymous

#50
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fatal flaw in the model is "I'm going to click on all my friends to see who signals interest in me".

Fatal flaw or working as intended?

The premise of the app is that with a contrived double-blind method, you can turbo past the awkward stage of signalling interest in someone.

It's flawed because if I click all my friends just to see who clicked me, then find friends X, Y and Z clicked me, I still don't know if they actually want to have sex with me, or were just doing the same thing I did. We haven't skipped an awkward step at all.

In a way, it's worse than that, because if I sincerely click on friend X, and X clicks me, then I assume that means she wants to fuck me. If she was just seeing who would signal interest in her, we now have an excruciatingly awkward situation where I've said out loud "I want to have sex with you", and it's not mutual.

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