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A student's grandmother is far more likely to die just before an exam

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Re: A student's grandmother is far more likely to die just before an exam

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Sadly I have experienced this. I was in mourning after losing a relative and refused to participate in an overtly cheerful activity.Not only was I reprimanded for it, but later heard the professor felt the need to complain to other people as well about yet another kid 'whos grandma had died'. It just so happened that my grandma had not died, nor would have I cared much if she would've had, but a much more cared for r…

Isn't it quite easy to present proof that a relative has really died?

It really depends.

Many people, especially poor folks, don't do obituaries, because they can be expensive. Original death certificates are always in high demand, and people tend to not realize that they need dozens of them -- proving to a teacher that grandma died is low priority. There are other cultural factors as well. Some religions call for immediate burial, so publication of the obituary will likely lag the student's absence.

Another factor to consider is that fall exam times line up with the holiday season, which also happens to be a time of the year when death rates spike.

Given all of the other accommodations that colleges give students, I don't see the big deal here. When I was in school, I was able to get incompletes to finish coursework or take exams late for various reasons. I had friends who got ADD diagnoses from doc-in-the-box places because they found taking exams in lecture centers with tiny desks impossible to deal with. If a C student gets an extra 3 days to study, the outcome is likely the same as it would have been.

Re: A student's grandmother is far more likely to die just before an exam

#42
post #28

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Lighten up - it's humour satirizing students trying to get out of exams by claiming grandma died, not research.

Exactly, I get it. Wonder, why everyone here is discussing the issue seriously rather than noting the humor in the piece.

Many of the comments in here are tongue in cheek. The current top comment is incredibly so, in the same vein as the paper. Others are discussing it seriously because there are some aspects which may be true even about the joke of an article.

Re: A student's grandmother is far more likely to die just before an exam

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post #32

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No, generally not in the timeframe between being notified and the funeral. There may be an announcement in a local newspaper -- local to your deceased relative -- but this is as likely to be after the funeral as before.

I don't think there's an issue with saying "you're getting a 0 on the exam until you furnish proof of death and proof of relation, at which point you can (re)take the exam." Surely even the most bureaucratic university would have some mechanism in place to allow a student to take an exam, even a final, later than planned (or even the next semester?)

yes, it's called an Incomplete.

Re: A student's grandmother is far more likely to die just before an exam

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This is indeed a strange and worrying phenomena. I am in fact aware of cases where a student has managed to lose 3 or more grandmothers while pursuing an undergraduate degree. This leaves the student with a negative number of grandmothers. The underlying mechanisms allowing this is highly mysterious and is certainly deserving of further research.

The author addresses this point, and how it is possible, but why so many grandfathers choose to remarry so quickly is still mysterious. > As more people go to college, their families find that, for safety reasons, it is wise to increase the number of grandmothers per family. Since there is currently no biological way of doing so (though another grant proposal in preparation will ask for funds to look into the prospec…

Which Author?

Although it seems to be stored on Dongwon Lee user dir, he states this document was written by "Mike Adams". I couldn't find this Mike Adams and I find it a little disturbing to read a Study that has no references, no date and the Author doesn't bother about writing his own name in it.

Re: A student's grandmother is far more likely to die just before an exam

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This is really amusing, but I'm a little skeptical that it's based on real data. Where does this author get the data on "number in family" for each student presented on p.3, for instance? (The article would be fascinating if it were true, but I'm tentatively treating it as a humor piece.)

In case it is true, let me second kenthorvath's comment: students have much less incentive to tell a professor about deaths in their family when there's no exam coming up. (I can't judge the grandmother/grandfather ratio information, because the article presents absolutely no data on that point at all. Hence even more skepticism.)

Re: A student's grandmother is far more likely to die just before an exam

#46
Reminds me of the old joke.

Four students, all roommates, thought about skipping an exam since they haven't prepared well. They arrived really late for the exam, and gave the excuse that they had a flat tire on the way. The Professor agrees for a re-exam.

After a week, they come really well prepared. But, the question paper was a shocker.

"Which tire got punctured?"

Re: A student's grandmother is far more likely to die just before an exam

#48
Just as a comment to any current students who do experience the death or illness of a relative: it's probably best to discuss things with your academic advisor (grad or undergrad) before or instead of contacting individual professors. An email from another prof has infinitely more credibility than one from a student; you only have to discuss it once, with someone you already know; and your advisor should know what resources are available to you and can help you plan the rest of the semester.

Re: A student's grandmother is far more likely to die just before an exam

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Yes, every teacher has experienced this. A lot of teachers have become jaded and will assume every student who brings this up is a liar and a cheat. The problem though is that although the majority of the cases are made up to get out of exams or assignments, a small number aren't. These students, in addition to losing their beloved relative then can become very distraught to find themselves unexpectedly saddled with…

My senior year of college I wrote to the provost expecting a close relative would die close to my exams. His sympathy was immediate, and separately from that, an obituary or other certificate would set the incomplete/rescheduling machinery in motion. He did not apologize or explain, so by presenting his personal sympathy and his professional administration of a system he was able to protect both the school's expectat…

Bingo. This was even covered in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, of all places

Re: A student's grandmother is far more likely to die just before an exam

#50

Reminds me of the old joke. Four students, all roommates, thought about skipping an exam since they haven't prepared well. They arrived really late for the exam, and gave the excuse that they had a flat tire on the way. The Professor agrees for a re-exam. After a week, they come really well prepared. But, the question paper was a shocker. "Which tire got punctured?"

I've changed a flat and then completely failed to remember a week later whether it was on the left or right side, so I guess I would have been in some trouble.
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