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Facebook is impersonating users without their consent

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Re: Facebook is impersonating users without their consent

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post #8

The question is: can I opt out of this, or am I obliged to deal with this as long as I'm a Facebook user. I personally find this is pretty bad. I don't want my friends seeing my past likes from several years ago and seeing me endorse something stupid that I liked before (on the front page). Do I need to go through my likes and curate it all the time? It's different if it's just on my profile because having it in the…

Why do you like things to begin with?

What do you get from it?

Re: Facebook is impersonating users without their consent

#42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To my mind it's the price of publically 'liking' something. With that in mind, I only 'like' things that I would be happy to market to my friends.

Have you manually retroactively disliked things you liked years ago, before policy changes?

Is there an app that can go through and unlike all? I don't care enough about liking something to have FB use it this way.

Re: Facebook is impersonating users without their consent

#43
post #30

By now, everyone should know that anything you post or do, at all, on Facebook is probably going to become public at some point. That is how Facebook makes its money. If you value your privacy then simply don't use Facebook. I stopped about 2 years ago and quite frankly I haven't missed it for a moment. If you do want to use Facebook then accept that your data is not your own, no matter what they say and quit complai…

You and I may know that, as may the rest of the HN community, but it shouldn't stop us from trying to protect our friends and family who use Facebook unawares to these practices. I know I don't want my mother thinking I liked a post about "2 Girls 1 Cup" – and my recourse shouldn't be to completely delete my Facebook account.

Given Facebook's behaviour and CEO, your recourse should be to completely delete your account. Facebook will not change their deceptive and manipulative behaviour because they need to do these things to make money, in fact they need to do a lot more of this sort of thing to justify their current stock price. If you stay on FB your likes, comments, images from your life, and your name will be used to endorse third party advertising without your explicit consent, and sometimes that's going to be products you don't agree with, particularly if you 'like' a magazine or similar which has many advertisers. The FB terms allow this, and they have shown what they think of user privacy.

Re: Facebook is impersonating users without their consent

#44
post #8

The question is: can I opt out of this, or am I obliged to deal with this as long as I'm a Facebook user. I personally find this is pretty bad. I don't want my friends seeing my past likes from several years ago and seeing me endorse something stupid that I liked before (on the front page). Do I need to go through my likes and curate it all the time? It's different if it's just on my profile because having it in the…

Yes - you can opt out of this - to do so, go to your settings, then click on 'ads' in the sidebar on the left and select 'edit' on the ads & friends section - there you can set "Pair my social actions with ads for" to "no one".

Re: Facebook is impersonating users without their consent

#46
post #12

This article is disingenuous. Facebook is putting related sponsored content next to a 'like' in the feed and it is labeled as such. The complaint here boils down to that an unsophisticated viewer might think that sponsored content was what was originally liked when it was actually not. They say this is "impersonating a user". That seems way over the top.

You're facts are correct and this isn't officially "impersonating a user." However, there is a very fine line that Facebook is crossing. Specifically, these sponsored posts are displayed in a way that causes confusion to the viewing user and, I am confident, this confusion is intentional on Facebook's part. As an apt web user with quite a bit of experience with Facebook and the web in general, I still get confused by…

> Specifically, these sponsored posts are displayed in a way that causes confusion to the viewing user

Ah, suddenly it all makes sense... I was genuinely wondering why my friends were "liking" advertisements. I don't use Facebook often enough to keep up with what they've changed, so this was genuinely confusing to me. The idea that they were "reusing" likes hadn't even crossed my mind.

For anyone who says what they're doing doesn't count as "impersonating a user" then I'd just like to counter with my own personal experience, that it sure looked that way to me!

Re: Facebook is impersonating users without their consent

#47
I had some issue just reading the text on the page after clicking the video. Once the video had opened for me the scrollbar on the site disappeared. It reappeared on reloading the page but incredibly annoying and confusing behavior.

Nothing to really say about the video etc.

Relevant C&H comic: http://www.explosm.net/comics/2398/

Re: Facebook is impersonating users without their consent

#48
post #12

This article is disingenuous. Facebook is putting related sponsored content next to a 'like' in the feed and it is labeled as such. The complaint here boils down to that an unsophisticated viewer might think that sponsored content was what was originally liked when it was actually not. They say this is "impersonating a user". That seems way over the top.

I tried to be as genuine as possible. My wording revolved around unsophisticated individuals who makeup a majority of Facebook. "Impersonation" perhaps isn't the proper word to use, but it certainly encompasses the general concern about promoted content.

To the eyes of an unsophisticated friend, I like penis waffles. For the record, I don't. I never liked anything similar, but Facebook re-posted a "like" (VICE) under my name, and attached a related article to attract more people (Penis Waffles).

Facebook doesn't make it clear that promoted content posted under your name is advertisement. On top of that, advertisements posted under your name is hidden from you, and visible only to your friends.

Re: Facebook is impersonating users without their consent

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post #41
post #8

The question is: can I opt out of this, or am I obliged to deal with this as long as I'm a Facebook user. I personally find this is pretty bad. I don't want my friends seeing my past likes from several years ago and seeing me endorse something stupid that I liked before (on the front page). Do I need to go through my likes and curate it all the time? It's different if it's just on my profile because having it in the…

Why do you like things to begin with? What do you get from it?

I don't get anything, but sometimes I'd like to show support to some particular effort/product that I think is worth my time.

Also, I think it used to be an "interests" section in Facebook, and all of those interests somehow got systematically migrated to "likes", I think. Those are the sketchy ones that I think I now need to go back and curate.

Re: Facebook is impersonating users without their consent

#50
post #14

I hate when people say things like "without users consent" as if those users didn't accept the TOS which I'm sure gives Facebook the ability to repost your likes.

Right. But in the real world almost nobody actually reads the TOS and even fewer understand it. Expecting people to read and be sufficiently informed by what's written to deliberatively agree to TOS is unrealistic in most cases.
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