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Re: Facebook Graph Search: Marketing Opportunities and a Potential Privacy Nightmare

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Post by _b8r0 »

johnnymonster wrote: post #34
bilbo0s wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Keep in mind that FB can, and does, track your browser usage whether you are logged in or not. So even though some info may not currently be in the graph, they certainly have a pretty good dossier covering everything you do on the internet. It's not only what you put on your FB that counts, it's anything you have done on the internet from a browser.

Interesting that you believe FB can magically track 100% of your browsing history even if you are not logged into facebook and not on a site with FB integration. However, this is something google does for sure. Thanks to chrome and search integrations in other browsers.

It is actually possible and Facebook does do it. Everywhere you see a facebook like button, javascript is loaded from Facebook. Facebook logs certain browser characteristics[1] with the request and uses this to identify you. Then when you log in it can match your account(s) to your browser identity. There's more complex data mining going on at Facebook but it is happening.

[1] - https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/01/tracking-by-user-agent

Re: Facebook Graph Search: Marketing Opportunities and a Potential Privacy Nightmare

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Post by venomsnake »

walshemj wrote: post #29
venomsnake wrote: post #6

Well ... if they are male chances of liking porn and guns are so high that you shouldn't bother searching. And in the last 10 years the notion that everybody is a freak in his numerous personal ways began to take hold anmog the populace. But the institutions became more easily offended and prude. But I suppose with the inevitable dieout of the current gen of employers the next just won't bother with searching ... it…

or society becomes more and more self censoring if your thesis was true we should seen a decline in say drug testing for standard non sensitive jobs already.

Drugs are illegal. The fact that the war on drugs is waged disproportionally towards the poor does not make them legal in the places and social classes where it is relatively safe to get stoned.

But see what happened with nudity and the stigma. Once a nipple slip was a big deal. Nowadays a celebrity sex tape is welcomed with boredom. And there is hardly a person without someone else voluntarily sent naked pic on the smartphone. And when they leak it is usually meh

Re: Facebook Graph Search: Marketing Opportunities and a Potential Privacy Nightmare

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Post by silverbax88 »

bilbo0s wrote: post #12
silverbax88 wrote: post #8

I don't want to sound mean, but if people aren't smart enough to keep their lives out of Facebook, then let them get burned. It's not rocket science. I've had a Facebook account for years and there is nothing - absolutely NOTHING -on my Facebook account that I would worry about an employer seeing. That means no political views, no off-color humor, NOTHING that I would not say or post in public, in broad daylight. I w…

Keep in mind that FB can, and does, track your browser usage whether you are logged in or not. So even though some info may not currently be in the graph, they certainly have a pretty good dossier covering everything you do on the internet. It's not only what you put on your FB that counts, it's anything you have done on the internet from a browser.

The article is about what OTHER people can find out you, not FaceBook. But I am also aware of browser tracking as well, which is why I'm still not worried at all - I pay the same amount of attention as if I was walking down a crowded Manhattan street.

Re: Facebook Graph Search: Marketing Opportunities and a Potential Privacy Nightmare

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Post by silverbax88 »

loudmax wrote: post #25
silverbax88 wrote: post #8

I don't want to sound mean, but if people aren't smart enough to keep their lives out of Facebook, then let them get burned. It's not rocket science. I've had a Facebook account for years and there is nothing - absolutely NOTHING -on my Facebook account that I would worry about an employer seeing. That means no political views, no off-color humor, NOTHING that I would not say or post in public, in broad daylight. I w…

> That means no political views, no off-color humor, NOTHING that I would not say or post in public Yikes! I totally get not posting things on public websites that you wouldn't post in public. But you really shouldn't be afraid to make your political views public, and even off-color humor has its place. I don't share the same political views as my employer, but we have mutual respect for each other. I guess if you're…

No matter what you believe in, someone will disagree with you. Many employers have people in positions of power who can, and will, try to hurt you, legally and/or financially, if they don't like how you believe.

Is it right? No. Does it happen? Oh, heck yeah.

Re: Facebook Graph Search: Marketing Opportunities and a Potential Privacy Nightmare

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Post by silverbax88 »

walshemj wrote: post #30
silverbax88 wrote: post #8

I don't want to sound mean, but if people aren't smart enough to keep their lives out of Facebook, then let them get burned. It's not rocket science. I've had a Facebook account for years and there is nothing - absolutely NOTHING -on my Facebook account that I would worry about an employer seeing. That means no political views, no off-color humor, NOTHING that I would not say or post in public, in broad daylight. I w…

so why are you not posting with your real name on here then?

For exactly the same reason. That should be obvious.

Re: Facebook Graph Search: Marketing Opportunities and a Potential Privacy Nightmare

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Post by Turing_Machine »

omni wrote: post #27
paulgb wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are lots of guys who don't like guns. I've only lived in a few liberal US cities so maybe my perception is skewed, but I (as a Canadian) thought the gun-loving american stereotype largely represented a minority.

Gun ownership seems to be in the high 40% range according to Gallup data. http://themonkeycage.org/blog/2012/07/21/the-declining-cultu...

"People willing to tell a stranger on the phone that they own a gun" is not the same group as "people who actually own a gun". At all.

Re: Facebook Graph Search: Marketing Opportunities and a Potential Privacy Nightmare

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Post by silverbax88 »

superuser2 wrote: post #14
bilbo0s wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Keep in mind that FB can, and does, track your browser usage whether you are logged in or not. So even though some info may not currently be in the graph, they certainly have a pretty good dossier covering everything you do on the internet. It's not only what you put on your FB that counts, it's anything you have done on the internet from a browser.

Facebook uses that information to target ads. If you're going to claim that Facebook makes that data available to prospective employers, prove it.

Are you arguing with someone else? That claim was never made.

Re: Facebook Graph Search: Marketing Opportunities and a Potential Privacy Nightmare

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Post by refurb »

Turing_Machine wrote: post #46
omni wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gun ownership seems to be in the high 40% range according to Gallup data. http://themonkeycage.org/blog/2012/07/21/the-declining-cultu...

"People willing to tell a stranger on the phone that they own a gun" is not the same group as "people who actually own a gun". At all.

Exactly, I would assume it's probably higher than 40%.

There are an estimated 270M civilian-owned guns and 132M households in the US. So basically 2 guns per household. If you estimate gun ownership at 50%, that's 4 guns per gun-owning household.

Re: Facebook Graph Search: Marketing Opportunities and a Potential Privacy Nightmare

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Post by Turing_Machine »

refurb wrote: post #49
Turing_Machine wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"People willing to tell a stranger on the phone that they own a gun" is not the same group as "people who actually own a gun". At all.

Exactly, I would assume it's probably higher than 40%. There are an estimated 270M civilian-owned guns and 132M households in the US. So basically 2 guns per household. If you estimate gun ownership at 50%, that's 4 guns per gun-owning household.

My gut feeling (and that's all it is -- which makes it just about as accurate as the Gallup data) is that it's closer to 70% than 40%.
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