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My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

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Re: My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

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Post by gesman »

rexreed wrote: post #36
gesman wrote: post #30

If your videos are acceptable to Vimeo (they have anal TOS but great technical platform) then I recommend at all times upload duplicates to Vimeo (and someone else). Then register your own URL shortener domain (such alex.je or whatever) and send links to your video through your own shortlinks, such as: alex.je/2013 Trusting your business to single platform provider - no matter how big - is disastrous. With planning l…

But what about the loss of ad revenue? I imagine folks are posting to Google because of what can be substantial monthly ad revenues -- which then a content producer becomes dependent on to finance the series and which makes an arbitrary termination like this even more disastrous.

It good while it works and last. Have backup plan when provider suddenly decides to boot you up or creative competitor complained to terminate your series.

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Post by mikecane »

mech4bg wrote: post #40

People saying that the service is free and Google owes you nothing are missing the point. If Google continues this practice and makes things worse, then people will lose trust in them, move away from their services, and they will suffer financially. This isn't about entitlement - this is about wanting a service to be good, and giving feedback when it isn't. Also these services are only nominally 'free' - Google makes…

Google Play apps, books, and whatever else they sell there aren't free. They are hurting their brand.

Re: My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

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Post by DanBC2 »

pasbesoin wrote: post #16

I'll share my personal response. I suspect I'm not alone in this. Google is incurring and running up against some real trust issues. I haven't always agreed with their decisions, but even when I became discouraged, I'd still glean information and news that showed or hinted at concerned, ethical people behind the closed doors. But... the continuing lack of a public, human interface to their endeavors, and the increasi…

> And this is going to be a serious problem for Google, in the long run. Once you lose reliability and accountability, people start looking elsewhere.

Google's customers are advertisers. They get personal support, with real people. It is the advertisers that need to be reassured about Google's services; who need to be convinced that Google do not tolerate any kind of extra ad clicking. (Not saying that's what happened here!!)

It is incredibly annoying that quality original content gets removed while the blurry cat clips get reposted all over youtube. And the blurry reposts prove that YouTube will continue to make money for Google even if they take down original content.

Re: My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

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Post by javajosh »

hcarvalhoalves wrote: post #15

Good luck. Dealing with any Google service - and in particular, YouTube - is like dealing with a robot, you don't manage to get in touch with any human being. Their general policy is to automate everything and give zero user support.

I had to deal with a "This site may be compromised" notice on a client site recently, and Google handled it within a few days. So it's not always bad.

Re: My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

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Post by nitrogen »

hcarvalhoalves wrote: post #15

Good luck. Dealing with any Google service - and in particular, YouTube - is like dealing with a robot, you don't manage to get in touch with any human being. Their general policy is to automate everything and give zero user support.

It's not just that; dealing with a robot should be easy and predictable. You're dealing with a robot that is trying its best to obey the irrational wishes of the content industry.

Re: My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

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Post by gcb0 »

magicalist wrote: post #35
d2vid wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been running into bad google experiences lately. I have a work email address that uses google for domains, and my account was completely disabled by google about a week ago with no response yet to my repeated contact attempts. Their error message was not exactly comforting, it included the following: Google reserves the right to: Terminate your account at any time, for any reason, with or without notice. I don't…

Is there any company that doesn't reserve the right to terminate a free hosted email account without notice? If you want an SLA, you (almost always) have to pay for it. And if you pay for Google Apps, you also get phone support... In the meantime: IMAP backups. If that's too much of a pain, there are also a ton of services (free or otherwise) which will do automatic backups for you, though you should really ( really…

data backups: this point is moot because, who cares about archived email? that's like 1% of the pain of loosing an account. 99% of the problem is the messages you will never be able to read.

Same with the youtube channel from OP. i'm 100% certain that the guy has all his videos ready for re-upload. but who cares? He had worked hard promoting that channel in several venues and acquiring an audience to THAT channel. That is lost forever.

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Post by conradfr »

donniezazen wrote: post #24

I strongly believe that we should start treating user data as a physical object. A law should be passed that would restrict scope of online vendors. Vendors should be free to stop providing services but not violently cut off users and delete all his/her personal data.

Well, if "stealing is stealing whether you use a computer command or a crowbar, and whether you take documents, data or dollars", I guess you have a point.

Re: My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

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Post by gcb0 »

rhizome wrote: post #28
d2vid wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been running into bad google experiences lately. I have a work email address that uses google for domains, and my account was completely disabled by google about a week ago with no response yet to my repeated contact attempts. Their error message was not exactly comforting, it included the following: Google reserves the right to: Terminate your account at any time, for any reason, with or without notice. I don't…

I've come to assume that, like Paypal, they are trying to go as long as possible without implementing customer service.

You mean Product Service. Because you're their product. They DO have customer service.

Remember, google customers are advertisers.

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Post by jamesaguilar »

pasbesoin wrote: post #16

I'll share my personal response. I suspect I'm not alone in this. Google is incurring and running up against some real trust issues. I haven't always agreed with their decisions, but even when I became discouraged, I'd still glean information and news that showed or hinted at concerned, ethical people behind the closed doors. But... the continuing lack of a public, human interface to their endeavors, and the increasi…

> Yes, I'm one isolated opinion

Not really. You're essentially saying the same thing that people have been saying about Google on HN at least as long as I've been a member. (That's two and a half years on this user name, and another I don't know how long on one that wasn't my real name.)

Re: My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

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Post by JoshTriplett »

jmettes wrote: post #26

I'm a bit worried now reading this post, since I want to run a webseries[1] on YouTube too this year. Is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening to me? YouTube would be the easiest way to get it out there, being its own source of traffic in its own right. However, would Vimeo be a better option here? Obviously I could also run it from the website directly (e.g., cloudfront), but free services are alway…

Why just use one? Upload to YouTube for the traffic, and blip.tv or Vimeo for the reliability. And whichever you do, try to get as many people as possible visiting your site directly and not caring about the video host.
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