when will URLs die?
It seems like you are implying that you want them to die. Can you elaborate on this? I think URIs and DNS are pretty nice if used correctly. How else would you identify things across protocols and the entire web?
We are in the final years of our internet
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#42>Whatsapp has won messaging, text and instant. What will Twitter and Skype do? Seriously? Operating a centralized walled garden does not satisfy any definition of won messaging when you consider the architecture of the internet. Nobody has won instant messaging until they all interoperate on the same capacity that email is interoperable, defined by an RFC.
A standard defined by an RFC will be a win for consumers, not sure if it'll be a win for companies though. If whatsapp can create a monopoly and make money from it, that's a win for them.
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#43Punditry at its worst. I would have called it clueless, but the truth is that nobody knows, and given evidence, this does not even seem like a plausible prediction. Sure you can say "mobiles apps grew so and so". But then I can say that given the growth of a newborn child, 60 years old adult should be 50m tall.
Agreed. I clicked the article thinking it would be about how regulation is threatening the internet. After 2 sentences I saw it was another article that the old web is dead and that we will only use apps in the future... so tired of hearing that line. As many others have stated, walled garden vs. free-flowing information, etc. Drives me nuts.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Peeling back the exterior and getting at the meat of the argument, I think the author is really arguing that the future "makers" of things are having their perception of the internet and computing shaped by their interactions with walled garden devices and controlled environments. Building off of this, they will proceed to continue perpetuating a world emphasized by unique apps and walled gardens instead of the creat…
A more concise argument is that your Android tablet that is Junior's first computing experience is significantly less hackable than your Commodore 64, which was more hackable than your DOS machine, which was more hackable than your Windows 95 machine, which was more hackable than your XP machine, et. cetera. Devices provide higher levels of abstraction from the tweak and tunables on the system, but only now are we se…
> but only now are we seeing devices where there is no easy way to actually write code for them, on them
Ah, very good point.
Well, today's devices still lack the hacking essentials: pointer/mouse/variant, keyboard, large screen ; maybe a decade of advance will give us usable virtual keyboards/pointers/what-have-you, projection displays on all handhelds and THEN no manufacturer will able to hold back the onslaught of development environments that penetrate the walled gardens.
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#46The only real insight I picked out of this was that children today are living in a walled garden. Before, we had to know about drivers, installers, executables, the filesystem, etc. Today, a lot of that is hidden. A benefit of that is that the system is a lot more stable and people are allowed to maintain the abstraction provided by the os. A question that Im curious about in the future is whether the success of the abstraction will prevent kids from peeking behind the curtain for simple lack of need. Lastly, will that in some way affect the technological capabilities of the kids?
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#47There is quite a lot of black and white thinking here which is the primary problem. Look, consumer technology is always a mess - apps vs web vs native vs desktop vs mobile vs ... etc etc. The truth of it is that we have so many choices because technology is meant to solve individual problems as best as possible. There will never be one winner. I think the author assumes just because tablets and apps are growing (I as…
For future reference and edification: "for all intensive purposes" => "for all intents and purposes."
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#48>Whatsapp has won messaging, text and instant. What will Twitter and Skype do? Seriously? Operating a centralized walled garden does not satisfy any definition of won messaging when you consider the architecture of the internet. Nobody has won instant messaging until they all interoperate on the same capacity that email is interoperable, defined by an RFC.
A standard defined by an RFC will be a win for consumers, not sure if it'll be a win for companies though. If whatsapp can create a monopoly and make money from it, that's a win for them.
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#49>Whatsapp has won messaging, text and instant. What will Twitter and Skype do? Seriously? Operating a centralized walled garden does not satisfy any definition of won messaging when you consider the architecture of the internet. Nobody has won instant messaging until they all interoperate on the same capacity that email is interoperable, defined by an RFC.
A standard defined by an RFC will be a win for consumers, not sure if it'll be a win for companies though. If whatsapp can create a monopoly and make money from it, that's a win for them.
We should be focused on wins for technology. This site is after all called Hacker News, not startup of the week entrepreneur news
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#50Bad enough to flag.